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Re: Adelaide Projects List & Interactive Map

#151 Post by Somebody » Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:29 am

What on earth are you on about?

The only regional line that was electrified was the North Coast line up to Rockhampton for freight in the 1980s as well as the coal network (which turns over a MASSIVE profit for QR), and even that was done on political grounds.

Are Pacific National, QRNational & SCT establishing a container terminal at Seaton Park??

Maybe some coal from East Grange to Port Adelaide?? Winfield Gold train from Grange to Brisbane??

As to the Grange Line - it sees bugger all patronage & bugger all patronage potential. Wasting money running a heavy rail service there is a waste of money.
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Re: Adelaide Projects List & Interactive Map

#152 Post by Norman » Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:32 am

Albert Park will (presumably) also host the West Lakes Tram line.

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Re: Adelaide Projects List & Interactive Map

#153 Post by Somebody » Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:41 am

If they have to run a lower capacity (light) and higher capacity (heavy) service to the other, they would be better off running the higher capacity to West Lakes, and the lower capacity to Grange. Obviously WL will generate far more boardings, not the other way round.

Personally I don't think Grange Cigarette Siding/East Grange Coal Terminal/Seaton Park Container City need rail services.
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#154 Post by jk1237 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:51 am

Somebody wrote:What on earth are you on about?

The only regional line that was electrified was the North Coast line up to Rockhampton for freight in the 1980s as well as the coal network (which turns over a MASSIVE profit for QR), and even that was done on political grounds.

Are Pacific National, QRNational & SCT establishing a container terminal at Seaton Park??

Maybe some coal from East Grange to Port Adelaide?? Winfield Gold train from Grange to Brisbane??

As to the Grange Line - it sees bugger all patronage & bugger all patronage potential. Wasting money running a heavy rail service there is a waste of money.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Thought that may get u going

I have seen somewhere of a electric loco in Queensland. I was assuming that this thing wasn't just taking freight around Brisbane suburbs only. Or is it? :lol: :lol: :lol: If not, then there must be a few hundred km of rural line electricifed. Right, or wrong
Why would u electrify half a trainline? If you electrify the Outer Harb line, anyone with any sense would either electrify the Grange spur, or just close it down completely

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Re: Adelaide Projects List & Interactive Map

#155 Post by AtD » Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:42 am

I wouldn't be surprised if Grange was closed. It doesn't go anywhere.

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#156 Post by Shuz » Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:08 pm

AtD wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Grange was closed. It doesn't go anywhere.
I don't think it'll be closed, but I do definetely believe they'll amend the proposal of electrifying the line, and simply convert it to light rail (trams). It makes little sense to construct dual-use voltage and lines on the Grange spur when West Lakes would only be served by a tramline anyway, so you might as well make the whole thing a tramline.

The patronage of the line warrants such a service, the train doesn't. And plus, it's cheaper.

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Re: Adelaide Projects List & Interactive Map

#157 Post by Cruise » Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:43 am

Turn it into an O-bahn

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#158 Post by monotonehell » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:25 pm

Cruise wrote:Turn it into an O-bahn
Are you trying to seduce me, sir?
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#159 Post by Shuz » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:22 pm

monotonehell wrote:
Cruise wrote:Turn it into an O-bahn
Are you trying to seduce me, sir?
You and your obsession with the O-Bahn...

Will we ever hear the end of it?

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Re: Adelaide Projects List & Interactive Map

#160 Post by Cruise » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:23 pm

monotonehell wrote:
Cruise wrote:Turn it into an O-bahn
Are you trying to seduce me, sir?
Is it working?

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Re: Adelaide Projects List & Interactive Map

#161 Post by Will409 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:08 pm

Shuz wrote:
AtD wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Grange was closed. It doesn't go anywhere.
I don't think it'll be closed, but I do definetely believe they'll amend the proposal of electrifying the line, and simply convert it to light rail (trams). It makes little sense to construct dual-use voltage and lines on the Grange spur when West Lakes would only be served by a tramline anyway, so you might as well make the whole thing a tramline.

The patronage of the line warrants such a service, the train doesn't. And plus, it's cheaper.
I agree with you there actually. The Grange line is in better shape then the Tonsley line but it is still only a small branch. You would need more tramway rollingstock but this would mean there is more heavy rail stock available to bolster services elsewhere (on a weekday, around 3/4 3000 class or 1 or two 3100 class sets).
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Re: Adelaide Projects List & Interactive Map

#162 Post by Norman » Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:46 am

Yes, the Grange Train is served by 2 3100-class sets on weekdays, not sure how many in peak, and 1 3000-class train on nights, weekends and public holidays.

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Re: Adelaide Projects List & Interactive Map

#163 Post by mattblack » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:06 pm

Not su re if you want to add it but the old stock exchange building is being redeveloped in preparation for the Royal Institute coming in early 09

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Re: Adelaide Projects List & Interactive Map

#164 Post by AtD » Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:21 pm

Thanks for the tip. It's only three stories, isn't it?

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Re: Adelaide Projects List & Interactive Map

#165 Post by mattblack » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:21 am

Yep.

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