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Re: Planning System Overhaul 2008

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:53 am
by AG
There are a couple of locations near the Gawler Line that I would've thought could potentially be great sites for TODs. They include the area near Islington Station by Regency and Churchill Roads and also around Salisbury Station. I'd like to know why they weren't identified as potential sites for TODs.

Re: Planning System Overhaul 2008

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:10 am
by Wayno
Norman wrote:Here are the Big Blue Dot locations:
-Elizabeth (New)
-Mawson Lakes (U/C)
-Port Adelaide/New Port (U/C)
-Cheltenham (Approved)
-West Lakes (U/C)
-Bowden (New)
-Modbury/Tea Tree Plaza (New, Previously Proposed)
-Mitcham/Clapham/Torrens Park (New)
-Plympton (Proposed Already)
-Castle Plaza/Old Hills site? (New[?])
-Glenelg (Done)
-Marion/Oaklands Station (New)
-Tonsley/Bedford Park (New)
-Noarlunga (New)
hey norman, where did you get this list from? i could not find it documented anywhere?

Re: Planning System Overhaul 2008

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:25 am
by muzzamo
i'm wondering if this means they can ram through some more highrise at glenelg. If they expand capacity on the tram line then it makes sense, although holdfast council would be dead against it.

Re: Planning System Overhaul 2008

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:33 am
by Ho Really
muzzamo wrote:i'm wondering if this means they can ram through some more highrise at glenelg. If they expand capacity on the tram line then it makes sense, although holdfast council would be dead against it.
Along Jetty Road would be good, even setback. What would the response be further up the line, like Glenelg East and so forth?

Cheers

Re: Planning System Overhaul 2008

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:52 am
by fishinajar
Norman wrote:Here are the Big Blue Dot locations:
-Elizabeth (New)
-Mawson Lakes (U/C)
-Port Adelaide/New Port (U/C)
-Cheltenham (Approved)
-West Lakes (U/C)
-Bowden (New)
-Modbury/Tea Tree Plaza (New, Previously Proposed)
-Mitcham/Clapham/Torrens Park (New)
-Plympton (Proposed Already)
-Castle Plaza/Old Hills site? (New[?])
-Glenelg (Done)
-Marion/Oaklands Station (New)
-Tonsley/Bedford Park (New)
-Noarlunga (New)
I live in Modbury, and I can't think of any large areas empty or otherwise easily obtainable for large scale redevelopment (other than compulsory acquisition). Does anyone have any idea of what exactly they have in mind for this area?

Also I don't know why they didn't identify anywhere else along the obahn. There is nothing stopping them from putting in more stops (other than associated time delays). What about the old TSA building and surrounding area? TSA want to move, the building could be converted to units as a start.

Re: Planning System Overhaul 2008

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:06 am
by Londo Mollari
Just to ensure we have access to the coverage of the Planning Review Reforms, the media statements of Deputy Premier Kevin Foley and Minister Paul Holloway are attached.

Re: Planning System Overhaul 2008

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:37 am
by Londo Mollari
This is a picture of a TOD in Portland. Bear in mind that Portland began its work on TODs 20 years ago, now many cities in the US have gone this way.

Re: Planning System Overhaul 2008

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:42 am
by Wayno
Londo Mollari wrote:This is a picture of a TOD in Portland. Bear in mind that Portland began its work on TODs 20 years ago, now many cities in the US have gone this way.
not much greenery there (or maybe this is a new TOD and simply needs time for the trees to get taller?) - hope we can do better than that...

Re: Planning System Overhaul 2008

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:45 am
by Londo Mollari
Another Transit Oriented Development. This is the Beaverton Central Mixed Use Project. Odd design, but might appeal to some.

Re: Planning System Overhaul 2008

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:03 pm
by Londo Mollari
Oakland City Centre, California. This is a very interesting one. Adelaide's TODs, however, will largely depend on the market and demand initially. We have been warned by some TOD experts from the US who worked on the Subiaco project that we might regret not going higher than 8 storeys from the outset though. I personally want to see them up to 15 storeys, I don't think we will see this at this stage.

Re: Planning System Overhaul 2008

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:18 pm
by omada
Who are you Londo Mollari? Are you Mike Rann himself? Or someone within the State Govt?? :wink:

Re: Planning System Overhaul 2008

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:27 pm
by Londo Mollari
omada wrote:Who are you Londo Mollari? Are you Mike Rann himself? Or someone within the State Govt?? :wink:
hahahahaha I was wondering when someone might ask me that :) It would be great to think Mike Rann was surfing our little (yet valued) community here!

Re: Planning System Overhaul 2008

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:27 pm
by Wayno
Londo Mollari wrote:
omada wrote:Who are you Londo Mollari? Are you Mike Rann himself? Or someone within the State Govt?? :wink:
hahahahaha I was wondering when someone might ask me that :) It would be great to think Mike Rann was surfing our little (yet valued) community here!
This is londo Mollari ==> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londo_Mollari

Re: Planning System Overhaul 2008

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:00 pm
by Londo Mollari
FYI

Given the level of interest in the Planning System and the Planning Review, I thought this might be worth posting.

Obviously places are limited, but from what I gather, the event is open to anyone with an interest in Planning.

The key speak is Michael O'Brien, Chair of the Planning and Development Review Steering Committee. Two other guest speakers include John Hanlon, who is the acting CE of Planning SA and Stuart Moseley, former CE of Adelaide City Council.

Re: Planning System Overhaul 2008

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:33 pm
by Norman
AG wrote:There are a couple of locations near the Gawler Line that I would've thought could potentially be great sites for TODs. They include the area near Islington Station by Regency and Churchill Roads and also around Salisbury Station. I'd like to know why they weren't identified as potential sites for TODs.
This area is alredy under development: http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/for ... ?f=8&t=580
fishinajar wrote:I live in Modbury, and I can't think of any large areas empty or otherwise easily obtainable for large scale redevelopment (other than compulsory acquisition). Does anyone have any idea of what exactly they have in mind for this area?
I think they want to develop the area around the TTP Interchange, I guess there's not much land, but it is possible to build over the Interchange. It has been proposed before.
Wayno wrote:hey norman, where did you get this list from? i could not find it documented anywhere?
I made it myself... I know this city too well :lol: