Anzac Highway Bus Lane

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Anzac Highway Bus Lane

#1 Post by Eurostar » Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:11 pm

Bus Lane proposed to run between South Tce and Brighton Road

I recommend that at least the major intersections should have B Light installed.

Why?
1) Traffic flows smoother
2) Reduced travel times for bus commuters
3) Reduced noise and pollution
4) Attracts people to use public transport

Which bus routes will be improved?
245, 248, M44, 262, 263, 265, H20, 719, 721, 722, 723, T721, T722.
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Re: Anzac Highway Bus Lane

#2 Post by MelBrandle » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:16 pm

Improvements are greatly appreciated regardless of their scale. This is especially true for homeowners living just next to busy roads during peak hours. They could use the newly added features as suggested to improve their daily living conditions.

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Re: Anzac Highway Bus Lane

#3 Post by rev » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:00 am

Bus lanes were trialled, failed, and removed from Anzac Highway.

The belief that by removing regular traffic lanes and making them Bus Only lanes will equate to an easing of traffic congestion is flawed.
You are removing a lane from a congested road, and forcing the same amount of cars to use less lanes. That creates more congestion and for longer periods.

It would have worked on Anzac Highway if they widened the road and added a new dedicated bus lane, while keeping the 3 lanes each way.

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Re: Anzac Highway Bus Lane

#4 Post by monotonehell » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:32 am

rev wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:00 am
Bus lanes were trialled, failed, and removed from Anzac Highway.

The belief that by removing regular traffic lanes and making them Bus Only lanes will equate to an easing of traffic congestion is flawed.
You are removing a lane from a congested road, and forcing the same amount of cars to use less lanes. That creates more congestion and for longer periods.

It would have worked on Anzac Highway if they widened the road and added a new dedicated bus lane, while keeping the 3 lanes each way.
TBF bus only lanes have worked elsewhere. The failure with ANZAC Hwy was part implementation (it was too complex) and drivers not using the lanes they were given (possibly because they didn't understand what they were supposed to do with the extra lanes given to them).

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Re: Anzac Highway Bus Lane

#5 Post by rev » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:48 am

monotonehell wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:32 am
rev wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:00 am
Bus lanes were trialled, failed, and removed from Anzac Highway.

The belief that by removing regular traffic lanes and making them Bus Only lanes will equate to an easing of traffic congestion is flawed.
You are removing a lane from a congested road, and forcing the same amount of cars to use less lanes. That creates more congestion and for longer periods.

It would have worked on Anzac Highway if they widened the road and added a new dedicated bus lane, while keeping the 3 lanes each way.
TBF bus only lanes have worked elsewhere. The failure with ANZAC Hwy was part implementation (it was too complex) and drivers not using the lanes they were given (possibly because they didn't understand what they were supposed to do with the extra lanes given to them).
With all the spare room available they should have built new lanes dedicated for buses. Wouldn't have been hard.

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Re: Anzac Highway Bus Lane

#6 Post by Llessur2002 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:58 am

rev wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:48 am
With all the spare room available they should have built new lanes dedicated for buses. Wouldn't have been hard.
Removing either the wide nature strips and mature trees on either side of the highway, or the grassy strip with mature palm trees and ANZAC art installations down the middle - thus turning a fairly visually pleasing and leafy highway named in memorial of the ANZACs into a featureless eight-lane strip of bitumen. Just because people couldn't figure out how to merge properly.

I'd like to think the bus lanes in one form or another will be given a second chance along this stretch. Mono might be right in that not enough instruction was given in how to use them...

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Re: Anzac Highway Bus Lane

#7 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:20 am

Pretty sure Anzac Highway used to be an 8 lane road back in the day and then they narrowed it down to 6 lanes with wider median and kerbs.
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Re: Anzac Highway Bus Lane

#8 Post by Nathan » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:01 pm

[Shuz] wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:20 am
Pretty sure Anzac Highway used to be an 8 lane road back in the day and then they narrowed it down to 6 lanes with wider median and kerbs.
Didn't it used to have an actual bikeway as well? I've heard it mentioned on occasion, and believe it was removed in the 70s, but have never seen any pictures of it or detail on what form it took.

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Re: Anzac Highway Bus Lane

#9 Post by mshagg » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:18 pm

rev wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:00 am
The belief that by removing regular traffic lanes and making them Bus Only lanes will equate to an easing of traffic congestion is flawed.
No the flaw was in trusting Adelaide motorists to behave like adults to effectively and efficiently allow one another to merge in an out of the third lane as intended by the design.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 8625c5f576
“To work effectively, drivers were required to use all lanes at intersections and merge into two lanes between intersections,” he said.

“It was hoped that motorists would adapt during the six-month trial, which focused on educating drivers, however this did not occur,” he said.
But no. One's lane must be occupied and defended like it has some sort of military significance.

So sure, why not - let's raze every patch of greenery between the city and victor harbour to put more lanes in. I'm sure they'll be put to good use by our attentive and courteous road users.

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