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Re: Glenelg : A Beach too far

#16 Post by AG » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:39 pm

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SRW wrote:How is it, realistically, that the Gold Coast places pressure on Glenelg? I don't see that connection at all.
It's the part that is most difficult in my essay. I just took it as Gold Coast, an expanding beachside city can be compared to Glenelg and therefore doesn't want to fall behind in its urbanization. I'm sure Henley Beach and Port Adelaide experienced pressure from Glenelg's constructions. If you have any insight into what "human pressures on the coastal fringe" is implying I'd gladly appreciate it.
Human pressures on the coastal fringe would be trying to make you think and consider about how various human uses for the coast (eg. residential and recreational uses) have an impact on the natural coastal processes such as beach erosion, longshore drift and the building and clearing of sand dunes that naturally build up behind where beaches form.

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Re: Glenelg : A Beach too far

#17 Post by Omicron » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:24 pm

AG wrote:
gizmo wrote:
SRW wrote:How is it, realistically, that the Gold Coast places pressure on Glenelg? I don't see that connection at all.
It's the part that is most difficult in my essay. I just took it as Gold Coast, an expanding beachside city can be compared to Glenelg and therefore doesn't want to fall behind in its urbanization. I'm sure Henley Beach and Port Adelaide experienced pressure from Glenelg's constructions. If you have any insight into what "human pressures on the coastal fringe" is implying I'd gladly appreciate it.
Human pressures on the coastal fringe would be trying to make you think and consider about how various human uses for the coast (eg. residential and recreational uses) have an impact on the natural coastal processes such as beach erosion, longshore drift and the building and clearing of sand dunes that naturally build up behind where beaches form.
Today's Guardian Messenger has an article on that very point.

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Re: Glenelg : A Beach too far

#18 Post by gizmo » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:59 pm

Omicron wrote:Today's Guardian Messenger has an article on that very point.
Online version? Don't think it's on the site.

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#19 Post by Omicron » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:10 pm

gizmo wrote:
Omicron wrote:Today's Guardian Messenger has an article on that very point.
Online version? Don't think it's on the site.
No idea. Kick your newsboy and ask for a copy.

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Re: Glenelg : A Beach too far

#20 Post by gizmo » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:28 pm

Omicron wrote:
gizmo wrote:
Omicron wrote:Today's Guardian Messenger has an article on that very point.
Online version? Don't think it's on the site.
No idea. Kick your newsboy and ask for a copy.
If I lived in Glenelg.

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#21 Post by Omicron » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:33 pm

gizmo wrote:
Omicron wrote:
gizmo wrote:
Online version? Don't think it's on the site.
No idea. Kick your newsboy and ask for a copy.
If I lived in Glenelg.
Oh well - just kick him anyway. Do you know anyone in the Guardian area who could save a copy for you?

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Re: Glenelg : A Beach too far

#22 Post by Norman » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:06 pm

You can buy it at the newsagent for 50c.

Or I may choose to scan it later.

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#23 Post by monotonehell » Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:49 pm

Norman wrote:You can buy it at the newsagent for 50c.

Or I may choose to scan it later.
Who pays for the Messenger? I know it has 50c written on it but everyone who missed it on their driveway picks one up for free at Foodland. ;)
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Re: Glenelg : A Beach too far

#24 Post by Cruise » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:45 pm

monotonehell wrote:
Norman wrote:You can buy it at the newsagent for 50c.

Or I may choose to scan it later.
Who pays for the Messenger? I know it has 50c written on it but everyone who missed it on their driveway picks one up for free at Foodland. ;)
You pay for it in your council rates

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#25 Post by AtD » Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:06 pm

I don't think councils pay for it. The pages and pages of ads pay for it.

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#26 Post by monotonehell » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:03 pm

AtD wrote:I don't think councils pay for it. The pages and pages of ads pay for it.
I'm sure that Adam's right, the local paper networks are run as a business by News Limited. Fairfax runs a similar set of local papers in competition to News Limited over in Melbourne.
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#27 Post by AtD » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:52 pm

Like "MX" in Sydney/Melbourne/Brisbane, News Ltd's collection of right-wing propaganda, sensationalist ranting, stuff stolen from the internet, and ads!

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Re: Glenelg : A Beach too far

#28 Post by Wayno » Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:20 pm

gizmo wrote:BTW I sent out emails to real estate agencies asking a few questions, got none back. So I thought I'd pose the questions to residents and others on here.

1) Why do you think people live in Glenelg?
2) Do you believe coastal house prices are too high and are now excluding people who cannot afford them?
3) Do you think Glenelg becoming a city as such on the beach, that it has lost its beach lifestyle and historicalness?
1) bustling yet relaxed, a great place to gather with nice sense of community. In the summer months it does not shut at 5pm (some shops might shut, but the people stay!)
2) Yes, coastal housing prices are high, but that is to be expected. Glenelg actually helps more people realise their dream of living by the beach simply by increasing density. Compare house prices anywhere near the Adelaide coastline to many Glenelg apartment prices. Also, you might want to rephrase the 2nd half of your question - housing is always too expensive if you can't afford it!
3) Yes - if you are the type of person who wants glenelg to be the same as every other beach along the Adelaide coastline (not me). No - i like the type of beach lifestyle offered by glenelg, and feel its sense of history has been retained, just look at all the great old shop fronts and federation style housing scattered through the suburb.
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Re: Glenelg : A Beach to far

#29 Post by cleverick » Thu May 08, 2008 12:46 am

monotonehell wrote: And now I see this out side the train station:
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Not only do they abuse the apostrophe but... WTF? How do I get my taxi "sign posted" so I can do a U-Turn? :roll: I could send that to one of those Chinese-English websites and they'd post it.
You noticed that as well? I actually tried to pull the apostrophe off, but it's not a normal sticker, so I'll have to go back with white out. As for the rest of the sign... I'll just accept that, like the Parklands, English is not something everyone wants to preserve.

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Re: Glenelg : A Beach too far

#30 Post by cleverick » Thu May 08, 2008 12:50 am

Oh, and now to report on how I feel about Glenelg:
I have started a thread testing the waters on my suggestion to move the casino to a waterfront location at Glenelg. I think, as long as it is confined to the suburb of Glenelg, further highrise building will help more than it hurts. I do in fact want a second city in Glenelg, with its own high-rise offices, perhaps a theatre and a high-rise car park. More apartments and making Jetty Road a Mall for tram and foot traffic only is also a suggestion.
Obviously this is SA's oldest settlement and there are buildings and streetscapes that must be protected at all costs, but by and large, I'm all for ultra-development in Glenelg, including a casino, a ferry to Kingscote and a train to the airport, among other plans. I can see Glenelg being similar to Naples (without the rubbish), Nice or Majorca.
And we must be cautious that the other suburban beaches stay suburban- esplanade views, bungalow houses, ice-cream kiosks and jetties. The Port, on the other hand, could develop its character more. If prostitution is legalised (I can't get a straight answer from anyone I ask) it should be centred around the Port for historic reasons. A fish market, more investment in the history of the area- lighthouse and museum, for example, as well as retaining the warehouse character of the surrounding districts should be priorities.

But Glenelg- gung-ho!

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