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Re: City to airport tramline

#31 Post by monotonehell » Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:13 am

While we're drawing fantasy lines around the airport...
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Re: City to airport tramline

#32 Post by Aidan » Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:22 pm

Mono, that plan doesn't make much sense. The Grange Road line is fair enough, but who would use the rest of them?

For a high capacity transport mode it doesn't make sense to avoid going straight to where the highest demand is — and the City has the highest demand by far.
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Re: City to airport tramline

#33 Post by Aidan » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:20 pm

Nathan, rubber and fish,
My main reason for favouring SDBD is the effect on the bus network. HBR is well suited to buses; many bus routes use it, and there are good bus priority measures. Converting just some of them to tram services would be disruptive, and fhere's no obvious alternative for diverting many of them. Whereas if there were trams on SDBD to the airport, the bus routes that currently use SDBD can easily be diverted onto HBR, giving us two main streets with public transport linking the City to the airport.

And in the City itself, grote Street is easily wide enough to add a tramway, whereas Currie Street is not easily alterable without disrupting many bus routes.
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Re: City to airport tramline

#34 Post by fishinajar » Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:51 pm

Aidan wrote:Nathan, rubber and fish,
My main reason for favouring SDBD is the effect on the bus network. HBR is well suited to buses; many bus routes use it, and there are good bus priority measures. Converting just some of them to tram services would be disruptive, and fhere's no obvious alternative for diverting many of them. Whereas if there were trams on SDBD to the airport, the bus routes that currently use SDBD can easily be diverted onto HBR, giving us two main streets with public transport linking the City to the airport.

And in the City itself, grote Street is easily wide enough to add a tramway, whereas Currie Street is not easily alterable without disrupting many bus routes.
I get you completely on the bus services, it would be simpler to go one line SDBD to the airport with no spur as you've said. Simplicity is important but should be considered among other criteria.

I doubt any line would continue directly in the city though, more likely join/or begin the loop. Besides if Sturt/Halifax is to be the bottom of a city loop, Franklin/Flinders would be the best midway east-west route IMO. Though again, that wouldn't be the simplest/cleanest looking option on a map.

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Re: City to airport tramline

#35 Post by Norman » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:13 pm

On the other hand, you could always divert some of the bus routes using HBR back onto SDBD, as they were before the Jetbus came in. You could also bring back the 286 through Lockleys/Underdale, and then extend it to Henley Beach South to service the remainder of Henley Beach Road after Airport Road or Rowells Road. It would be interesting to see if SDBD or HBR has more congestion, which could also offer express services for those living by Henley Beach and Grange.

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Re: City to airport tramline

#36 Post by monotonehell » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:58 am

Aidan wrote:Mono, that plan doesn't make much sense. The Grange Road line is fair enough, but who would use the rest of them?

For a high capacity transport mode it doesn't make sense to avoid going straight to where the highest demand is — and the City has the highest demand by far.
It's not a plan - it's a visualisation of some of the tram corridors proposed over the past decade on SenAdl.

Any combination of any contiguous bits of those corridors could constitute a route.
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