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rev wrote:Im bored. Was thinking with talk about a ferry at Glenelg coming up again why dont they go further and build a cruise ship terminal too. Much better location for it then outer harbor, better first impression of Adelaide for tourists.

Turn the Glenelg jetty into a proper pier. Ferries on one side, cruise ships on the other. Retail, dining & entertainment in the middle.

Flinders Ports can take over the old cruise ship terminal and expand the container facility or whatever.

Cape Jervois can be downgraded to serve the local communities with smaller more economical ferries, and the bigger ferries moved up to Glenelg. Tie in the ferry operations with the operating of aspects of the pier it self so that the cost of catching a ferry across the Gulf or down to KI isnt as cost prohibitive.

Terrific idea! Would be awesome


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If we built a new Glenelg Pier with the same scale as the Brighton Pier in England, it would extend out to the tyre reef. also roughly the same length as the dock the Spirit of Tasmania uses in Melbourne

Goodsy wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:06 pm

If we built a new Glenelg Pier with the same scale as the Brighton Pier in England, it would extend out to the tyre reef. also roughly the same length as the dock the Spirit of Tasmania uses in Melbourne

My home town

Does that have cruise ships visit? How do semi trailers fit to resupply, and busses to collect/deliver the passengers and their luggage? It looks very crowded for a practical terminal.

No, there's no shipping of any kind which uses Brighton Pier - it's for pleasure only. It has a large fairground at the end, two 'pavillions' with arcade machines and restaurants along it's length, as well as a variety of small kiosks and such.

An abominable mess of what was once a grand Victorian pier but it's very popular with tourists...

A Santa Monica or Brighton Pier style expansion to Glenelg would be fantastic for the area.

Imagine something like the climbing adventure park at West Beach, but at the end of a pier overhanging the ocean.

Geelong..

Is there a huge demand to walk or drive 200m up a pier to some business?

All I see is lots of money to build and run a facility with poor access.

The big ferris wheel has returned for the second summer running now. Obviously people are wanting more to do at Glenelg.

Many hotels have a narrow laneway for service access. Doesnt seem to be a problem.
Theres many such piers around the world, access doesnt seem to be a problem.
Why would it be a problem here?
Was it a problem with the old pier that even had an aquarium?
Why would it be a problem today if it wasnt in the past?

In the past there was not the discrimination act.
You would need to run some form of on-demand shuttle now. Which means the pier would need to be flat enough to drive a small buggy on. Eg the current pier surface would not be suitable.

There also was not the building fire safety requirements. If the pier was on fire where is the alternative escape?

Are you thinking a fine dining restaurant to take advantage of the views and mood while out there?
That is what I am thinking. Maybe a kiosk but I doubt that would work either.

It will be windy, wet or too hot and too far to walk in nice clothes, shoes and hair.

Whatever builds out there will always have poor attendance and high costs due to the bad location.

First 2 years the gimmick would work and people would come. Then once done once or twice most will not bother again.

I think it would be way too expensive to seriously consider, but it's interesting to imagine having the tram go down a pier as part of any massive expansion.

rev wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:18 pm

The big ferris wheel has returned for the second summer running now. Obviously people are wanting more to do at Glenelg.

Many hotels have a narrow laneway for service access. Doesnt seem to be a problem.
Theres many such piers around the world, access doesnt seem to be a problem.
Why would it be a problem here?
Was it a problem with the old pier that even had an aquarium?
Why would it be a problem today if it wasnt in the past?

Glenelg can keep its jetty for the casual stroll and fishing, but the marina, ferry and cruise terminal would be the central focus. You could add an aquarium, museum, convention facilities, restaurant, cafe, etc. A pier in the old fashion way wouldn't serve much as you know.

bits wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:39 am

In the past there was not the discrimination act.
You would need to run some form of on-demand shuttle now. Which means the pier would need to be flat enough to drive a small buggy on. Eg the current pier surface would not be suitable.

There also was not the building fire safety requirements. If the pier was on fire where is the alternative escape?

Are you thinking a fine dining restaurant to take advantage of the views and mood while out there?
That is what I am thinking. Maybe a kiosk but I doubt that would work either.

It will be windy, wet or too hot and too far to walk in nice clothes, shoes and hair.

Whatever builds out there will always have poor attendance and high costs due to the bad location.

First 2 years the gimmick would work and people would come. Then once done once or twice most will not bother again.

The weather would negate anything that is not well built and protected, that's why a marina and port facilities with a well built breakwater is the only way to go.

Nort wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:00 am

I think it would be way too expensive to seriously consider, but it's interesting to imagine having the tram go down a pier as part of any massive expansion.

The tram could loop around Colley Terrace, ANZAC Highway, Gordon Street and back into Jetty Road. This would service the marina, ferry and cruise terminals. No need to send a tram down a jetty which won't just be expensive, but impractical and also dangerous.

Cheers

Momochi Seaside park, Fukuoka Japan.

That looks like a passenger ferry, not a cruise ship (or even a vehicle ferry).

If we could develop destinations that attracted enough tourists to keep it viable, that would be great.

What’s in walking distance of the jetty at Edithburgh or Stansbury to make day trips exciting?

Penneshaw, Kingscote and Port Lincoln are probably too far for day trips, so need bigger ferries, overnight accommodation and then are a different market segment.

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