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#2 Post by Wayno » Mon May 26, 2008 5:45 pm

deja vu. same agenda as our group, yes? perhaps an opportunity to collaborate?
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#3 Post by Howie » Mon May 26, 2008 6:48 pm

Good on them. Appears as though we share alot between our groups, including the fact that they were both offshoots of ssc.

I'll drop by and say hi one time.

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#4 Post by Cruise » Mon May 26, 2008 6:58 pm

Wayno wrote:deja vu. same agenda as our group, yes? perhaps an opportunity to collaborate?
No, Perth is the enemy.

I will join their site though, just to post dribble.

Does this mean the WA section of SSC will die just like the SA section did?

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#5 Post by Cruise » Mon May 26, 2008 7:02 pm

from the site:
Candidates will not become an official member until seconded and thirded by existing members at a general meeting.
ahh so this forum will be a private boys club, set to fail

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#6 Post by AtD » Mon May 26, 2008 8:36 pm

Cruise wrote:from the site:
Candidates will not become an official member until seconded and thirded by existing members at a general meeting.
ahh so this forum will be a private boys club, set to fail
I've been having a read on the SSC thread. They're doing it by the book by forming an incorporation, which (to my limited understanding) means they can legally collect donations, spend money and limit their liability from being sued, etc. In short, they've got a Law student! :mrgreen: But all of this creates admin costs, therefore membership fees.

I think it should be established the distinction between 'us' and 'them.' SA is (for the most part) a non-political discussion group, FP looks like it's lobby group.

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#7 Post by Will » Tue May 27, 2008 7:55 pm

Good for them. I congratulate them for taking that extra step. I am sure that their positivity and actions will only enhance their city.

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#8 Post by Shuz » Wed May 28, 2008 11:18 am

This has got me thinking - could Sensational-Adelaide take up on the same approach?

Do we have enough professional input to make ourselves an 'authority' feasible?
  • Urban Planners, architecture dudes, councillors, law students etc?
We clearly have a very solid membership base - however, there may be some differences of opinion amongst the crowd. Could it be possible for the community to elect 'leaders' to act as a representative towards certain issues? Eg:
  • Advocate for Public Transport
    Advocate for Environment & Sustainability
    Advocate for Development Review
Would taking up on such a measure require 'setup' costs, eg: registering as a business organisation or whatever we are? And taking up on donations to promote our cause?

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#9 Post by Howie » Wed May 28, 2008 11:34 am

I've previously looked into setting up an organisation for the south australian chapter of a car club I belong too. It was alot of work - getting an organisation statement, appointing a treasurer, holding monthly meetings, membership fees, renewals etc... eventually after months it went nowhere so we just merged with another club to participate in their track days.

I think for the work involved, I wouldn't want anymore time taken from our news / website aspect of this site. Unfortunately time's something I don't have much of these days with a 40hr job then putting in the extra time to maintain this site, plus other commitments I have at the moment.

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#10 Post by Wayno » Wed May 28, 2008 11:39 am

Shuz wrote:This has got me thinking - could Sensational-Adelaide take up on the same approach?

Do we have enough professional input to make ourselves an 'authority' feasible?
  • Urban Planners, architecture dudes, councillors, law students etc?
We clearly have a very solid membership base - however, there may be some differences of opinion amongst the crowd. Could it be possible for the community to elect 'leaders' to act as a representative towards certain issues? Eg:
  • Advocate for Public Transport
    Advocate for Environment & Sustainability
    Advocate for Development Review
Would taking up on such a measure require 'setup' costs, eg: registering as a business organisation or whatever we are? And taking up on donations to promote our cause?
this idea has merit, but i'd suggest the majority of S-A members are interested in blogging, sharing opinions on the topic du jour, and perhaps helping a bit further, but not enough for us to become a true authority (as of today). Having plenty of free time to meet, discuss, agree, disagree, confer, lobby, write proposals/letters, etc is the killer here. Happy to be proven wrong though!
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#11 Post by Queen Anne » Wed May 28, 2008 2:03 pm

Wayno wrote:
Shuz wrote:This has got me thinking - could Sensational-Adelaide take up on the same approach?

Do we have enough professional input to make ourselves an 'authority' feasible?
  • Urban Planners, architecture dudes, councillors, law students etc?
We clearly have a very solid membership base - however, there may be some differences of opinion amongst the crowd. Could it be possible for the community to elect 'leaders' to act as a representative towards certain issues? Eg:
  • Advocate for Public Transport
    Advocate for Environment & Sustainability
    Advocate for Development Review
Would taking up on such a measure require 'setup' costs, eg: registering as a business organisation or whatever we are? And taking up on donations to promote our cause?
this idea has merit, but i'd suggest the majority of S-A members are interested in blogging, sharing opinions on the topic du jour, and perhaps helping a bit further, but not enough for us to become a true authority (as of today). Having plenty of free time to meet, discuss, agree, disagree, confer, lobby, write proposals/letters, etc is the killer here. Happy to be proven wrong though!
I would be interested! Two points for me, though - I won't be home for 18 months and the only skill I could offer is my proofreading/copyediting.
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#12 Post by Omicron » Wed May 28, 2008 3:15 pm

Well, i'm illiterate, have a hollow degree, and quite enjoy buttered toast, so I'm of no help to any future organisation. 8)

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#13 Post by omada » Wed May 28, 2008 3:49 pm

I agree with Wayno, the idea is a not a bad one, but I know i'm happy just to be a member of an apolitical organisation, I do not see any need to come together as a legal entity.

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#14 Post by monotonehell » Wed May 28, 2008 6:20 pm

omada wrote:I agree with Wayno, the idea is a not a bad one, but I know i'm happy just to be a member of an apolitical organisation, I do not see any need to come together as a legal entity.
Further to that, incorporating often leads to being bogged down in the politics of organisation, as well as attracting political miscreants. You don't want to become like the APPA do you? ;)
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#15 Post by Ho Really » Wed May 28, 2008 11:12 pm

monotonehell wrote:
omada wrote:I agree with Wayno, the idea is a not a bad one, but I know i'm happy just to be a member of an apolitical organisation, I do not see any need to come together as a legal entity.
Further to that, incorporating often leads to being bogged down in the politics of organisation, as well as attracting political miscreants. You don't want to become like the APPA do you? ;)
Although I mentioned incorporation somewhere (probably Adelaide City 2030) so S-A could attain legal status (and some clout), I do agree with monotonehell, politics will rear its ugly head. Continuing as a discussion forum is not a problem, if we want to take action we can always write letters and petition. Maybe keeping things simple is best.

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