PRO: Hobart | 28-30 Davey Street | Hotel | 180m/205m

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PRO: Hobart | 28-30 Davey Street | Hotel | 180m/205m

#1 Post by [Shuz] » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:05 pm

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthrea ... 481&page=2
http://www.themercury.com.au/news/tasma ... 1e9969499e

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Even Hobart is getting a building, technically, by spire height, taller than Westpac / Realm / Frome Central.
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#2 Post by Llessur2002 » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:31 pm

Oooh, I like that one.

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#3 Post by Norman » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:41 pm

And why not? Tourism is booming over there and they have a very compact CBD. Wish them all the best in getting this off the ground.
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#4 Post by timtam20292 » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:54 pm

Hopefully this is the start of more tall buildings over there :) I really like this building.

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#5 Post by Ben » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:14 am

Design have been updated to 180m to building 205 to spire.

Can't belive Hobart could have a significantly taller building then us.
Proposed Hobart skyscraper soars to 180 metres in updated designs
News Words Patrick Hunn

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The updated design for the proposed hotel by Xsquared Architects, viewed from Brooke St. Image: Xsquared Architects

Updated designs for a proposed skyscraper near Hobart’s waterfront have been submitted to the local council as part of the development application process. The new design calls for a 179.6-metre-tall tower with an angled roof occupying a smaller footprint than the original 120-metre proposal. A 25.1-metre spire would bring the building’s total height to 204.7 metres.

The updated proposal also moves a series of inset “sky gardens” that were originally located on every face of the tower, concentrating them all on the side of the building that faces Franklin Square.

In 2016, Xsquared Architects director Peter Scott described the sky gardens as an important feature of the tower’s design.

“We wanted it to be cut into or have an articulated shape, so the scale of those sky gardens is designed to give it release and articulation at a distance of one kilometre,” he said. The harbour-side facade would instead now be made of reflective glass.

Speaking to ArchitectureAU on the updated designs, Scott said that the decision to move the gardens was to create a more “intimate,” feeling, as well as to “give each side of the building a particular character,” creating a “signature facade” when viewing the CBD from the harbour.

When asked about the building’s height in 2016, Scott argued that the impact of a tall building was greatest up to a height of 40 metres, with everything above that significantly less important. “Most of the impact of the building is a result of, first of all, the first 20 metres or so because that is relevant to the buildings immediately around it, and then the next 20 metres is what’s going to cast shadow or have wind effects.”

In response to the controversy generated by the height of the proposed hotels, Hobart City Council commissioned a report on building heights in the CBD from local architect and urban design consultant Leigh Woolley. In his report, Woolley suggested a 75-metre maximum height limit within the CBD.

The updated design for the proposed hotel by Xsquared Architects. The “sky gardens” present in the original design have been concentrated on the Franklin Square-facing side. Image: Xsquared Architects
Hobart City Council previously declined to issue planning permission to a hotel designed by Jaws Architects, which would have been Hobart’s tallest building, until the proposed height was slashed from 73 metres to 63 metres.

Currently the tallest building in Hobart is the 74-metre-tall Wrest Point Hotel Casino, designed by Roy Grounds in 1973 and currently slated for a $70-million refurbishment.

Scott said that, if approved, the hotel could be operational by the end of 2020, provided that construction begins by the end of the year.
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#6 Post by Norman » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:23 am

Well, they don't have a flight path above them for starters, and a booming tourism economy. However, it is only a proposal at this stage, not sure how good Hobart's track record is on a proposal/realisation ratio.

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#7 Post by Splashmo » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:28 pm

This is completely out of scale with Hobart's existing skyline - I'm not a fan at all.

The design is nice though so they could build it here :wink:

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#8 Post by rev » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:50 pm

Splashmo wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:28 pm
This is completely out of scale with Hobart's existing skyline - I'm not a fan at all.

The design is nice though so they could build it here :wink:
Out of scale..?
So how exactly does a city grow taller? Meter by meter?


Will this proposal be like that massive one Darwin had quite a few years ago....? ie never built..

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#9 Post by monotonehell » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:46 am

rev wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:50 pm
So how exactly does a city grow taller? Meter by meter?
Yes. Someone has to go first.
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#10 Post by Splashmo » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:14 pm

rev wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:50 pm
Out of scale..?
So how exactly does a city grow taller? Meter by meter?
Normally I'd agree with you, but the current tallest building in Hobart's CBD is 58m. This is three to four times taller. Not only could it take decades to catch up, but it would ruin any photograph of the city.

I'm sure it will never come to fruition.

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#11 Post by HiTouch » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:11 am

The elephant in the room is that, if (in a blue moon) Hobart builds this proposal, they will be another city Adelaide doesnt compete with in terms of height that is smaller than her. Anyway, the demand isn't really there for a 100m hotel let alone a 180m hotel (unless the hotel is the width of a stobie pole and they are offering visas to the noodle people).

In other words, it shouldn't happen, It can't happen and It won't happen,

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#12 Post by Will » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:42 pm

It was in the news yesterday, that this proposal was cancelled.

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#13 Post by timtam20292 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:46 am

Well how disappointing.

No doubt thanks to nimbys and Anti Development groups, I've just learnt of one group who calls themselves "Hobart No Highrise" :roll:

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