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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#886 Post by [Shuz] » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:25 pm

The Murdoch press and media which owns 70% of all media in this country is conservative and you're having a whinge that there isn't enough conservative media or news or opinion?

Get a fucking grip, Rev.
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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#887 Post by rev » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:33 pm

[Shuz] wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:25 pm
The Murdoch press and media which owns 70% of all media in this country is conservative and you're having a whinge that there isn't enough conservative media or news or opinion?

Get a fucking grip, Rev.
As usual Shuz doesn’t even bother to argue the points raised just rants and swears at people.
Go take your Mitsubishi drugs and get lost.

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#888 Post by Goodsy » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:55 pm

rev wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:25 pm

Conservatives don’t have someone like George Sorros who funds movements and uprisings to destabilise countries and governments, or to pay off journalists to print biased, slanted news. You can google research on Sorros your self if you don’t believe me.
Rupert Murdoch and the Koch Brothers are the conservative equivalent

and if you can stomach listening to John Oliver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtNyOzGogc

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#889 Post by bits » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:34 pm

Silent majority? There is no such thing, it is an invention by those that are in denial that sit in minority view on something.

If you look around and wonder why no one seems to be agreeing with you, that should be your first clue that you have a minority view.

Remember gay marriage and the silent majority that turned out to simply be an overwhelming loud minority of people?
Only 38.4% of people with that number being strongly propped up by the Muslim community that showed strong opposition.

You sit in the simple minority not the silent majority rev, at least in this country.





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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#890 Post by Goodsy » Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:05 pm

SA election: Cory Bernardi's Australian Conservatives to run 33 Lower House candidates

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-16/a ... es/9455576

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#891 Post by rev » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:33 pm

bits wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:34 pm
Silent majority? There is no such thing, it is an invention by those that are in denial that sit in minority view on something.

If you look around and wonder why no one seems to be agreeing with you, that should be your first clue that you have a minority view.

Remember gay marriage and the silent majority that turned out to simply be an overwhelming loud minority of people?
Only 38.4% of people with that number being strongly propped up by the Muslim community that showed strong opposition.

You sit in the simple minority not the silent majority rev, at least in this country.
A forum comprised mostly of left wingers and homosexuals and nobody agrees with someone who isn’t left wing?
No shit I’m in the minority on here.

You must have won awards in school.

What’s gay marriage got to do with anything now?
I was never opposed to it anyway, I was opposed to the wider agenda associated with it. Which is starting to creep in now, so I was right.

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#892 Post by rev » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:37 pm

Goodsy wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:55 pm
rev wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:25 pm

Conservatives don’t have someone like George Sorros who funds movements and uprisings to destabilise countries and governments, or to pay off journalists to print biased, slanted news. You can google research on Sorros your self if you don’t believe me.
Rupert Murdoch and the Koch Brothers are the conservative equivalent

and if you can stomach listening to John Oliver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtNyOzGogc
We have a free to air mainstream media equivalent of the shit on The Project or the ABC?

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#893 Post by bits » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:54 pm


rev wrote: What’s gay marriage got to do with anything now?
The only time I heard people saying silent majority in Australia was regarding gay marriage.
You then used the term so the only thing I can compare the usage of that term to in Australia is gay marriage.

There was not a silent majority against allowing gay people to marry.
Whatever silent majority you are claiming almost certainly doesn't exist either.

You are lost within the noise of the majority disagreeing with you.
You are of course allowed to disagree with the majority, nothing wrong with that, just clutching at straws that all the media are not reflecting the majority is a delusion.

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#894 Post by rev » Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:42 pm

bits wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:54 pm
rev wrote: What’s gay marriage got to do with anything now?
The only time I heard people saying silent majority in Australia was regarding gay marriage.
You then used the term so the only thing I can compare the usage of that term to in Australia is gay marriage.

There was not a silent majority against allowing gay people to marry.
Whatever silent majority you are claiming almost certainly doesn't exist either.

You are lost within the noise of the majority disagreeing with you.
You are of course allowed to disagree with the majority, nothing wrong with that, just clutching at straws that all the media are not reflecting the majority is a delusion.
Stop talking shit, twisting facts and reality, and making up crap for the sake of posting. I don't even know what the hell you're posting about/for.

This is the SA Politics Thread.

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#895 Post by HiTouch » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:52 am

Stop talking shit, twisting facts and reality, and making up crap for the sake of posting...

...This is the SA Politics Thread.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm fairly sure talking shit, twisting facts and reality and making up crap for the sake of posting is exactly what SA politics is all about.
rev wrote:
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If the parklands are so important why dont they put it to a vote state wide? Or are they afraid the majority will back this hotel..

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#896 Post by timtam20292 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:22 pm

Marshall’s first promise as SA premier: Kill Tesla battery plan

The newly elected South Australia premier, the Liberal Steven Marshall, has made his first promise – his government intends to kill the Tesla plan for the world’s biggest “virtual power plant” that would install batteries in low income households for no cost.

The Tesla plan – which aimed to install 5kW of solar and a 13.5kWh Tesla Powerwall 2 battery storage unit in 50,000 homes – would have created a virtual power plant with 250MW of capacity and 650MWh of storage.

The Tesla plan was announced just before the official start of the election campaign. The first two stages of the proposal – for 1,100 Housing Trust homes – is apparently locked in with a $2 million grant and a $30 million loan, but the broader third phase is not yet set in stone.

“No, that’s not part of our agenda,” Marshall told ABC’s Radio National breakfast program, just minutes before being sworn in as premier.

Instead, Marshall said his government would proceed with his previously announced commitment to a $100 million subsidy to 40,000 homes, where he would offer $2,500 for each battery storage unit installed.

“(Former premier Jay Weatherill) was doing it for Housing Trust homes in South Australia … that’s not part of our plan. What we are going to do is provide a subsidy to get (those with) solar rooftops systems with some storage capacity.”

Marshall’s plans would, of course, be very difficult to access for low-income households because it would still require an upfront capital payments that they would likely be unable to afford. And they do not already have rooftop solar.

It’s an extraordinary start for the new Liberal government – promising to ditch a private initiative that would provide loans to low-income households in favour of a $100 million government subsidy that would be out of reach of those households most in need of it.

So much for free markets. But it also raises the issue of sovereign risk.

If the Liberal Party is to do back-flips on initiatives like this, will it also renege on the other contracts entered into by Labor’s Renewable Technology Fund – and there are many of those, for larger-scale storage developments, and for a variety of smaller and micro-grid proposals.

It could be that the Tesla virtual power plant could go ahead, seeing that it is privately funded and requires a retailer to be chosen to help roll out the scheme and act as an intermediary.

The idea was to install the solar and battery storage for free, and deliver a reduction of around one-third in the electricity bills of 25,000 Housing Trust homes, and another 25,000 private low-income households. Investors would provide the capital.

However, given the new government’s antipathy to the scheme, it is entirely possible the tender process may be delayed and the private investors would not want to go ahead in such a hostile political environment.

It could also have an impact on Australia’s only solar manufacturer, Tindo Solar, which was looking to significantly increase its production capacity at its Adelaide manufacturing plant, and hire more employees, of course.

That’s because the Tesla plan would require half of the solar capacity to come from local manufacturers. It was also seen as an excellent platform for a new retailer to enter the South Australian market. The lack of competition in South Australia is one of the principal reasons for its high electricity prices.

The irony is that Marshall admitted he could see the benefits of battery storage – both at utility level and in households.

But he re-iterated his intent to scrap the state’s renewable energy target, because it would push up prices – even though the amount of projects under construction and promised by the new owner of the Whyalla steelworks would likely take the stake to Weatherill’s 75 per cent target, probably several years earlier.

Marshall also plans a new interconnector to NSW. Marshall says this will add to the “affordable reliable baseload” the state could access “when it’s not windy or sunny” in South Australia.

But appears to ignore the fact that NSW is already the state with the highest dependence on imports, even more than South Australia and may not been a position to export power to anyone.

But he also said the interconnector would allow for the “excess renewables” from South Australia to be exported to other states, “lowering prices across the entire nation.”

Hang on, didn’t you just say that the investment in renewables had and would push prices up?
http://reneweconomy.com.au/marshalls-fi ... lan-68601/

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#897 Post by Brucetiki » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:32 pm

Is Rob Lucas’ only budget capability is to sell everything

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#898 Post by Nort » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:53 pm

It's heartbreaking, we were on the path to be a global leader in renewables and all gone so that Coles can open later. :(

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#899 Post by Waewick » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:40 pm

Brucetiki wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:32 pm
Is Rob Lucas’ only budget capability is to sell everything
well that wouldn't be that far different to the one that just got replaced.

It just appears you don't hold the same level of grudge.

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Re: The SA Politics Thread

#900 Post by Goodsy » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:51 pm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-22/l ... as/9576084

Peter Malinauskas set to be new SA Opposition Leader, with Susan Close as deputy

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