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Re: The Federal Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:15 am
by Norman
Eurostar wrote:Gawler Line electrification needs to be fast tracked, Stephen Marshall should be consulting with Bill and Scott to get some federal funding.
Huh? Electrification of the full line to Gawler Central is already under construction.

Re: The Federal Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:45 am
by rev
SRW wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:50 am
Federal Labor will seek to extend for another 5 years the stay of Adelaide Zoo's pandas, who are due to return to China this year. The man waiting to be taking out with the trash, ScumMo, thought it was clever to slam the opposition for making the proposal while Queensland recovers from floods even though he is in Tasmania and, more importantly, government is not and should not be a zero sum game. It's able chew gum and walk at the same time.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... labor-plan
Sweet f all jobs, more and more people in SA reliant on food charity...but we get to keep some stupid pandas for another 5 years? Ohhh woooow, what did we do to deserve such amazingly thoughtful political leaders.

Re: The Federal Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:13 pm
by SBD
Did I hear Pauline Hanson correctly on the radio this morning that she wants the Federal Government to pay for a coal-fired power station in SA to burn SA coal and run the desalination plant at full power to save the Murray River water for irrigation?

I don't think she was pressed on where in the state it should be or where the new coal mine would be.

Re: The Federal Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:12 pm
by SRW
rev wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:45 am
SRW wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:50 am
Federal Labor will seek to extend for another 5 years the stay of Adelaide Zoo's pandas, who are due to return to China this year. The man waiting to be taking out with the trash, ScumMo, thought it was clever to slam the opposition for making the proposal while Queensland recovers from floods even though he is in Tasmania and, more importantly, government is not and should not be a zero sum game. It's able chew gum and walk at the same time.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... labor-plan
Sweet f all jobs, more and more people in SA reliant on food charity...but we get to keep some stupid pandas for another 5 years? Ohhh woooow, what did we do to deserve such amazingly thoughtful political leaders.
Better than spending $186 million on political advertising... But again, such 'whataboutism' is a slippery slope when government is capable of providing for more than one thing. You're definitely right, though, there's not enough being said or done about poverty or homelessness by either side. Not to mention the noncommittal mutterings about the woeful rate of Newstart. I'd wager that at least Labor acknowledges inequality; the Coalition's missing in action.

Re: The Federal Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:12 pm
by SRW
SBD wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:13 pm
Did I hear Pauline Hanson correctly on the radio this morning that she wants the Federal Government to pay for a coal-fired power station in SA to burn SA coal and run the desalination plant at full power to save the Murray River water for irrigation?

I don't think she was pressed on where in the state it should be or where the new coal mine would be.
:wallbash:

But there's already movement on the desal for river water front: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-14/ ... r/10619960

Re: The Federal Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:11 pm
by Aidan
SBD wrote:Did I hear Pauline Hanson correctly on the radio this morning that she wants the Federal Government to pay for a coal-fired power station in SA to burn SA coal and run the desalination plant at full power to save the Murray River water for irrigation?
Yes you did.
I don't think she was pressed on where in the state it should be or where the new coal mine would be.
Nor should she have been. The coal is there, somewhere north of Tarcoola. And the least stupid option for a power station to exploit it would be to put the power station next to the mine.

But it's still incredibly stupid. Apart from the environmental effects, it wold be a very expensive way of generating electricity, and that's what she should've been pressed on.

Re: The Federal Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:15 pm
by Eurostar
Norman wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:15 am
Eurostar wrote:Gawler Line electrification needs to be fast tracked, Stephen Marshall should be consulting with Bill and Scott to get some federal funding.
Huh? Electrification of the full line to Gawler Central is already under construction.
Outer Harbour Line electrification should also be shovel ready for funding

Re: The Federal Politics Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:07 am
by SBD
Aidan wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:11 pm
SBD wrote:Did I hear Pauline Hanson correctly on the radio this morning that she wants the Federal Government to pay for a coal-fired power station in SA to burn SA coal and run the desalination plant at full power to save the Murray River water for irrigation?
Yes you did.
I don't think she was pressed on where in the state it should be or where the new coal mine would be.
Nor should she have been. The coal is there, somewhere north of Tarcoola. And the least stupid option for a power station to exploit it would be to put the power station next to the mine.

But it's still incredibly stupid. Apart from the environmental effects, it wold be a very expensive way of generating electricity, and that's what she should've been pressed on.
The reason the Playford and Northern power stations were built near Port Augusta, not Leigh Creek had to do with the need for cooling water drawn from Spencer Gulf. The same logic might be needed for Arckaringa Basin coal.

There are coal deposits much closer to Adelaide than that. I have a vague recollection of hearing there was coal in the excavations for the basement of the Myer Centre. Nobody would have done enough exploration to confirm whether these closer deposits are big enough to support a power station from an underground mine (Balmain colliery used to operate a mine under Sydney harbour).

Re: The Federal Politics Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:40 am
by rev
The circus with the Prime Minister is rolling into town today. Wonder what promises he will bring us.

Re: The Federal Politics Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:32 pm
by rev
So whats all this about ship building in WA...

Re: The Federal Politics Thread

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 8:32 am
by rev
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/nat ... 6bd1c5b536

There's a small questionnaire about policies which matches you with a party.
I'm matched 66% with the Center Alliance. Apparently it's the former Nick Xenophon Team party.

Re: The Federal Politics Thread

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:06 am
by Goodsy
rev wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 8:32 am
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/nat ... 6bd1c5b536

There's a small questionnaire about policies which matches you with a party.
I'm matched 66% with the Center Alliance. Apparently it's the former Nick Xenophon Team party.
88% aligned with Greens. Not a very good questionnaire when most of those questions are a lot more complex than a simple yes or no answer

Re: The Federal Politics Thread

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 12:55 pm
by Jaymz
I matched 64% with the Centre Alliance, not a party i've ever considered voting for to be honest :?

Re: The Federal Politics Thread

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 1:28 pm
by SRW
The two most advanced Australian political alignment tools are:

Vote Compass by the ABC/Melbourne Uni/Vox Labs with 1 million participants so far

and,

Smartvote by NineFairfax and the ANU with 250,000 participants so far

See how ya go.

Re: The Federal Politics Thread

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 10:48 am
by rev
Vote Compass
71% OneNation
70% Liberal-Nationals Coalition
39% Labor
15% Greens

Smart Vote
For the Senate...some LOL results..Aldridge..really? :lol: Animal Justice Party? :mrgreen:
1. Mark Aldridge
The Great Australian Party
72.3%
2. Alex Antic
The Liberal Party of Australia
71.9%
3. David Fawcett
The Liberal Party of Australia
71.9%
4. Lucy Gichuhi
The Liberal Party of Australia
71.9%
5. Anne Ruston
The Liberal Party of Australia
71.9%
6. Robyn Coleman
Sustainable Australia Party
60.2%
7. Graham Davies
Sustainable Australia Party
60.2%
8. Alex Gallacher
The Australian Labor Party
52.0%
9. Emily Gore
The Australian Labor Party
52.0%
10. Larissa Harrison
The Australian Labor Party
52.0%
11. Marielle Smith
The Australian Labor Party
52.0%
12. Louise Pfeiffer
Animal Justice Party
48.4%
13. Andrew Castrique
Australian Democrats
47.7%
14. Brett O'Donnell
Independent
46.9%
15. Kim Ransley
Liberal Democrats
40.6%
16. Sarah Hanson-Young
Australian Greens
39.8%
17. Gwydion Rozitisolds
Australian Greens
39.8%
18. Robyn Seto
Australian Greens
39.8%
19. Major Sumner
Australian Greens
39.8%
House of Reps.
1. Shaun Osborn
The Liberal Party of Australia
71.9%
2. Steve Georganas
The Australian Labor Party
52.0%
3. Deanna Kangas
Animal Justice Party
51.2%
4. Chris James
Australian Democrats
50.8%
5. Barbara Pocock
Australian Greens
39.8%