[U/C] 11 Frome Street | 135m | 37 Levels | Crowne Plaza / Adelaidean | New tallest

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#766 Post by Ser Noit of Loit » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:34 pm

If we look at AndyWelsh's picture

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and then one of the renders,

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it seems fair to say the lower half of the podium is what's been built and the core is sitting where the upper half of it will be. Does anyone have any measurements of the plans? I'm interested in knowing how tall the podium is.

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#767 Post by citywatcher » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:35 pm

Ser Noit of Loit wrote:If we look at AndyWelsh's picture

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and then one of the renders,

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it seems fair to say the lower half of the podium is what's been built and the core is sitting where the upper half of it will be. Does anyone have any measurements of the plans? I'm interested in knowing how tall the podium is.
I'm guessing about 35 m

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#768 Post by noted » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:50 pm

The podium in that render reminds me a bit of the istay precinct.

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#769 Post by normh » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:10 am

HiTouch wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:31 am
how good is he wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:16 am
I agree this is disgraceful. Cant think of any new ones that bad in Australia..we may need to look at third world countries! Who do you think should bare the blame - the developer, the architect, those that approved it or all of the above?
All of the above. It's presence has damaged the prestige of Rundle Street. It makes Rundle Street look cold and sad. The only design that is worse than this is the chaotic and out of shape nature of Waymouth's moudly swiss cheese.

Weelllll we might have a 2nd contender, the Dwell builder is the Adelaidean builder :twisted: and if the glazing doesn't cut it??? (just a short stab at a pun) Dwell might look better :banana:

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#770 Post by GrowAdelaide » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:31 pm

normh wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:10 am
HiTouch wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:31 am
how good is he wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:16 am
I agree this is disgraceful. Cant think of any new ones that bad in Australia..we may need to look at third world countries! Who do you think should bare the blame - the developer, the architect, those that approved it or all of the above?
All of the above. It's presence has damaged the prestige of Rundle Street. It makes Rundle Street look cold and sad. The only design that is worse than this is the chaotic and out of shape nature of Waymouth's moudly swiss cheese.

Weelllll we might have a 2nd contender, the Dwell builder is the Adelaidean builder :twisted: and if the glazing doesn't cut it??? (just a short stab at a pun) Dwell might look better :banana:
Being a hotel I think this is a different prospect, as there is ongoing benefit to presenting an appealing looking hotel.

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#771 Post by Algernon » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:33 pm

They built 400KWS, so they're at least capable of not building urgent crap.

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#772 Post by Spurdo » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:04 pm

Algernon wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:33 pm
They built 400KWS, so they're at least capable of not building urgent crap.
+1

So far it seems that every one of Kyren’s buildings is progressively better than the last. The Young St Car Park was awful, but Alpha/Palais was slightly better, 400KWS was a massive step forwards, The PWC building was slightly better (the cladding was better, the blank wall not so much) so this one should be even better considering the architects are the same ones behind West Franklin and the glass looks very similar to the one on that project.

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#773 Post by Plasmatron » Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:24 pm

From a different perspective than usual, viewed from Bent St. (26/10/2018)

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#774 Post by how good is he » Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:50 pm

Apparently Samaras has gone to the high court and is still trying to get the student accom tower approval next door over-turned (on the basis it was wrongly assessed).

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#775 Post by timtam20292 » Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:11 pm

Seriously? He just won’t give up.

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#776 Post by [Shuz] » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:17 am

Isn't it already approved? So what's his issue?
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#777 Post by SRW » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:15 am

The developer’s alleging the approval is invalid.

I wonder whether the anatagomism to the student tower may have something to do with the hotel operator? Perhaps they’re not all that locked in and might take up lease in one of the numerous other proposals in the city rather than taking on rooms with diminished views?
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#778 Post by normh » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:40 pm

SRW wrote:
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The developer’s alleging the approval is invalid.
Didn't the Developer use the same "set of rules" to get his own development approved?

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#779 Post by Ben » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:34 pm

The student accom developer should just start. Unless you can’t commence while an appeal is in progress? If that’s the case he might just drag it out until Adelaidean is at completion and by that time everyone has settled on the sales and it won’t matter to him.

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#780 Post by Nort » Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:15 pm

I think a special exception should be made for this case where the appeal can go ahead if they agree to tear down the shoebox they themselves put up next door.

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