Patrick_27 wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:04 am
claybro wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:27 pm
Honey of a City wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:16 pm
Seems to be an appetite for chewing up some more parklands for this. How about considering the Showgrounds? Multiple train routes and the tram already right on the doorstep, and major traffic arteries radiating in all directions. Local parking infrastructure currently servicing tens of thousands of people at the Show and other events. Financial win-win for the Ag Society and other stakeholders. Worked historically for Centennial Hall, cricket, football, trots and many other major events. Currently under-utilised site most of the year. Worth a look?
The idea of spending a lazy few hundred million for a sports stadium is to get vibrancy and activity back into the city and build on the already well facilitated sports precinct. While we agree that Wayville Showgrounds are under utilised, swapping one inner suburban location for another one to build the rectangular stadium is not what they had in mind.
If an arena is timed to be complete first, build a new football/soccer stadium on ETSA Park and tie in a relocated Mile End train station plus touted tramline to Adelaide Airport, or alternatively, you have the Entertainment Centre site which has tramline access and nearby trainline access. There is no need to chew up more parkland for these projects.
The area east of Adelaide Oval may be "parkland" (park 12) but it already has built forms on it, and is used for sporting codes already.
Building a proper venue on there would merely be a huge upgrade of a sporting facility. As I've posted before this is my personal preference. The tram line will eventually be sent further north up King William and into North Adelaide and beyond. It's close to existing hot spots in the city/cbd, it's proximity to the east end would also help give the east end a shot in the arm. It creates a wider sporting precinct.
Building it west of Adelaide Oval on part of the Golf Course. So what? A few less holes for golf?
Building it in the southern parklands which parts of are under utilized and not even maintained..well that's a huge improvement then isn't it? Especially if the surrounding parklands are not only improve/upgraded but are from then onwards maintained properly. It's also a major win if that side of the city sees a surge in building activity, new residents moving into new apartments, new hotels, eateries/bars/nightlife. It adds to the vibrancy of the city. It's already a part of the city that's growing (slowly) with apartments and what not.
Building it over the rail yards/part of that grassed area/outdoor carpark next to the Morphett street bridge behind the bio-med precinct would also add to the vibrancy of the city.
I don't think this is the spot for a stadium, I think it should be kept open as it is for future expansion of the bio-med precinct either for new research facilities or expansion of the RAH or expansion of the future nWCH. It would be very short sighted if they built a stadium there.
The argument against simply can not be "oh we can't build anything more on parklands" and leave it at that.
There's a wider argument and bigger picture that should be looked at which my post touches on some of that.
Karen Rolton Oval across from the RAH has been upgraded from what it was. We had several warm up games for the womens cricket t20 world cup there. Wouldn't have had them otherwise. A rectangular stadium "upgrade" of Park 12 would give us the opportunity to host large sporting code events which use such venues, like both mens & womens FIFA world cups, Bledislo cup, state of origin, etc etc. We would likely see more NRL games played here. We missed out on hosting Asian Cup games here in 2015. They used Canberra Stadium ffs, but we missed out. Look how crap that stadium is, look how crap the Newcastle stadium they used is.
Personally I'd rather we sacrifice some small parts of the parklands ring around the city, for purposes that will bring in hundreds of millions in revenue and create thousands of jobs, if it means that the remaining majority of parklands are improved and maintained to a higher standard.