News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

[Kasey771]

Moran conceding defeat on her original motion.

Plenty of other interesting tidbits.

http://indaily.com.au/news/local/2017/0 ... e-st-vote/

One can only hope.
This bikeway needs to be extended to its full length (North terrace) any money wasted ripping up what has already been built is money that isn't going to building this thing the full length. or even an E/W bikeway too.

[Nathan]

Moran conceding defeat on her original motion.

Plenty of other interesting tidbits.

http://indaily.com.au/news/local/2017/0 ... e-st-vote/

One can only hope.
This bikeway needs to be extended to its full length (North terrace) any money wasted ripping up what has already been built is money that isn't going to building this thing the full length. or even an E/W bikeway too.

North Tce isn't even the full route. It's supposed to extend all the way through North Adelaide via Frome Rd and Margaret St, connecting to the planned bike route along Braund Rd in Prospect.

[Waewick]

I love her comment that she hasn't spoken to 1 person who thinks it's good infrastructure. That would explain why the same 10 people vote her in. Just must soley talk to them.

[Vee]

And so it goes...
Peak hour traffic wins as ACC votes to rip up part of the Frome St separated bikeway.

Part of Frome Road's separated bikeway, in Adelaide's CBD, will be ripped up to accommodate two lanes of traffic during peak hour...

In a special ACC meeting to deal with the issue, councillors last night voted to change the design of the bike lanes between Wakefield Street and Pirie Street to improve traffic flow.

But Lord Mayor Martin Haese said the first two blocks of Frome Road from Carrington Street would remain unchanged, but would be "greened up".
"That's largely a residential area and the residents need their car parking, and the cyclists need their segregated bikeway."

"We're going to put two lanes of traffic in either direction during peak hour only so that motorists can come into the city and clear the city easier during peak hours but will still be keeping our cyclists safe because they'll have a designated bike lane."

Better planning for cyclists needed

The design is still being finalised, but will be expanded along the rest of Frome Road to North Terrace and eventually be rolled along a new east-west cycling corridor.

Costs

Adelaide City Council and State Government are jointly funding the $12-million expansion of the city's cycling infrastructure.
Mayor Haese said the council would pick up the cost of replacing the current Frome Road bike lanes.

Consultation

The council will consult with businesses along Frome Road as it finalists the design....

Consultation reports (previous) will be ignored again?!?
Bikeways are for cyclists' safety ... but ACC will consult with businesses re design???

ABC News:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-08/a ... up/8333630

[Kasey771]

Thankfully Sense has prevailed
Clr Abiad put up the motion that he foreshadowed, but added a variation: no part of the existing bikeway would be replaced until the section north of Pirie Street has been completed. With this variation, the motion sailed through.

Those that posted earlier that the bikeway is supposed to go all the way to the Braund Rd Greenway are correct, but the most visible and most important section, because it is in the highest car traffic area part of the bikeway, is the protected lanes in between North and South Terrace IMHO.
This is an important win for active transport in Adelaide. I think we'll look back upon this in 10 years time with a whole lot of new converts to the idea of protected bike ways being a good thing.

[Kasey771]

I love her comment that she hasn't spoken to 1 person who thinks it's good infrastructure. That would explain why the same 10 people vote her in. Just must soley talk to them.

Would explain why the North Adelaide knitting circle has so much sway

[Nathan]

Those that posted earlier that the bikeway is supposed to go all the way to the Braund Rd Greenway are correct, but the most visible and most important section, because it is in the highest car traffic area part of the bikeway, is the protected lanes in between North and South Terrace IMHO.

I do think the section between North Tce and the Torrens is equally important, considering the the linear path is already a popular commuting route that should be properly connected to the Frome St bikeway.

The existing arrangement on Frome Rd is less than ideal. The off-street south bound bike lane is often filled with pedestrians (shit loads of signage be damned), has no room to overtake slower cyclists (what is it with uni students who hit the granny gears 100m before the hill?), and sees lots of salmon coming the other way. The lane on the other side narrows drastically as you go along it, exasperated by the large build up of leaves that fill up in the gutter, and is regularly blocked by cars illegally stopping to drop-off/pick-up uni students. Oh, and there's no connection to the linear path to speak off (unless you count a heap of stairs as a 'connection').

[Kasey771]

Frome Road is definitely rubbish as is. I was only trying to say that I think the most visible section and thus the biggest target for the anti-bikeway lynch mob is the section between North terrace and Wakefield street. That's why I think it's vitally important to see Clr Abiad's motion pass that the section north of Wakefield be completed before any 'remediation' work is conducted on what has already been built.

[mshagg]

It's just insanity to think that reintroducing an additional lane of traffic for a completely isolated two blocks of road in the middle of the CBD will have any meaningful impact on traffic. Abiad himself admitted some time ago that the council's preference of tearing the bikeway up was founded on little more than a perception issue. Another way of saying it's ideological.

Definitely credit where credit is due re: completion of frome st a condition to modifying existing sections.

Thankfully that snake Antic was absent for the meeting as I'm sure he would have scuttled anything that watered down his fantasy of completely demolishing the bikeway.

[Waewick]

I don't even understand why Frome is promoted as a Road to use in peak hour anyway, its not a road that goes anywhere once you are heading south.

[ChillyPhilly]

InDaily's take on the events of last night:

http://indaily.com.au/news/local/2017/0 ... -happened/

[Waewick]

Surely the need to annexe North Adelaide from the ACC and keep it as a CBD council only.

Will stop this village mentality from taking over important decisions.

[Nathan]

It's not just North Adelaide though. Antic, for example, is from the south west of the city.

[SouthAussie94]

Adelaide city council requests F1 return investigation

The Adelaide City Council will make a formal request to the South Australian State Government to investigate whether or not the Australian Formula 1 Grand Prix could return to the city.

According to a report by the Adelaide Advertiser, the city council last night determined that it would like South Australian Tourism Minister Leon Bignell to look into the viability of a bid to re-claim a round of the Formula 1 World Championship.

The South Australian capital was Australia’s first World Championship host, the Australian Grand Prix running on the streets of Adelaide between 1985 and 1995 before the race was shifted to Melbourne for the 1996 race.

A shortened version of the Adelaide street circuit is now used for the Supercars season-opener.

“There’s a certain nostalgia that the Grand Prix brings and I think everyone in the room is old enough to remember the halcyon days so I’m glad that the council will write to the State Government and at least indicate that we’d like this explored,” councillor Alex Antic was reported as saying by the Advertiser.

“We’d just like to see the State Government take the steps to see if it is viable and whether a pitch could be made.”

Bignell has already moved to pour water on the idea of the GP returning to Adelaide, having been quoted by the Advertiser last week as saying: “These are the most infuriating people in South Australia, this city council.

"If they want the Grand Prix, how about they put in some money so we can get the grandstands up a bit quicker, which will make their ratepayers happy.

“Let’s have a look at Bathurst — their council put in $6 million in the Bathurst race. These clowns put in $50,000 and charge us $100,000.

“They are big on complaining but not putting their hands in their pockets to help their ratepayers. We’re not interested in [the Grand Prix].”

The current contract with the Australian Grand Prix Corporation to run the race in Melbourne is valid until 2023.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/adel ... on-882870/

[Nathan]

As much as I love F1, it won't happen.

— Standard of track no longer suitable for modern F1
— Turns 7 & 8 (section through East Tce) has been completely changed thanks to O-Bahn extension
— And track would block O-Bahn extension. Completely blocking the PT route with the highest patronage would not remotely be entertained
— Cost

We'd be better off trying to attract categories that work on the short circuit and give us better value for hosting dollars, like the emerging Formula-E series.