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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3541 Post by Llessur2002 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:41 pm

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They're talking about the same footbridge which survived a VW golf being hang from the centre back in the 70s?
Just being pedantic but it was an FJ holden. The engine had been removed so it would have weighed in at under 900kg.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3542 Post by Nort » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:10 pm

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The bridge was holding a single car plus half a dozen students as a "dead load" total weight would have been 2-2.5 tonnes. At full pedestrian capacity the bridge would be able to accommodate 50+ people. Assuming they averaged 70kg each you're looking at 3.5 tonnes of "live load". Live load exerts far greater stresses on structures because it can cause bouncing of the structure or set-up vibrations that under the right conditions can causes waves of movement to occur.
For all the people sure that there was no risk due to the increased number of pedestrians I encourage them to prove the ACC wrong after the bridge is re-opened by grabbing 50-60 other people and going jumping around on the bridge together. I certainly won't be joining in.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3543 Post by Nathan » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:04 am

FINALLY

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Not perfect — they should continue the lighting along the river instead of just going to the access road opposite Phillips St, and there needs to be a lit path on the other side of the river along the train lines — but anything is still a massive improvement over nothing.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3544 Post by Llessur2002 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:41 am

Nathan wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:04 am
FINALLY

Not perfect — they should continue the lighting along the river instead of just going to the access road opposite Phillips St, and there needs to be a lit path on the other side of the river along the train lines — but anything is still a massive improvement over nothing.
I saw this yesterday on my cycle home - it is great news. Hopefully it will be extended all the way to Port Road (and elsewhere) in the not too distant future...

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3545 Post by SRW » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:07 pm

According to an article on InDaily, the Rundle Street U-Park requires substantial maintenance to extend its useful life. The interesting takeaway from the article is that the urgent works are expected to guarantee its serviceability for only another 10 years. Which raises the question, at what point might redevelopment be considered? It'd be a game-changing opportunity for the East End if it became available.
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3546 Post by Nort » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:37 pm

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According to an article on InDaily, the Rundle Street U-Park requires substantial maintenance to extend its useful life. The interesting takeaway from the article is that the urgent works are expected to guarantee its serviceability for only another 10 years. Which raises the question, at what point might redevelopment be considered? It'd be a game-changing opportunity for the East End if it became available.
No matter what, that site probably shouldn't be a car park.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3547 Post by Ben » Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:30 pm

Bring back the grand central hotel.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3548 Post by skyliner » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:01 am

Amen to that. A rare type of architecture left in Adelaide. Imposing and...grand in the true sense! (on a highly visible location - looked twice as big as a result). The replacement is a shocker except for the lights.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3549 Post by Patrick_27 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:22 am

Ten years to plan a suitable replacement. By that point, hopefully, Adelaide's retail sector will have firmly sprawled out of Rundle Mall and further into surrounding streets. In which case, I can see this being an ideal location for a mixed used retail precinct. Engineering these days would allow for at-least four levels of carpark to be excavated below this site so we wouldn't necessarily lose parking to any redevelopment.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3550 Post by Nort » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:39 am

Patrick_27 wrote:
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Ten years to plan a suitable replacement. By that point, hopefully, Adelaide's retail sector will have firmly sprawled out of Rundle Mall and further into surrounding streets. In which case, I can see this being an ideal location for a mixed used retail precinct. Engineering these days would allow for at-least four levels of carpark to be excavated below this site so we wouldn't necessarily lose parking to any redevelopment.
Since you mentioned excavation, if it passed near there it would be a perfect spot for a rail station for the eventual underground rail.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3551 Post by mshagg » Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:24 pm

Lol, welcome to the new ACC, where improving accessibility is code for free parking. Clearly ahead of the curve because I thought every other city in the world moved away from making private motor vehicles the focal point of transport.

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City visitors would enjoy free parking, while outdoor-dining fees would be scrapped for some eateries, under Adelaide City Council’s “new vision” for the CBD and North Adelaide.

Lord Mayor Sandy Verschoor said the initiatives – among a raft to be discussed at a council meeting on Tuesday night – would help small businesses and make the city more liveable.

“This is a new council that has a new vision for Adelaide,” she said.

“We have new councillors who have energetic ideas for the city,” Ms Verschoor said.

“I think these measures will make the city a lot more appealing to business, residents and visitors.”

Allowing people to park their cars in the middle of Rundle Rd, between East Tce and Dequetteville Tce, is another idea that will be debated at the meeting.

Ms Verschoor said the proposals were a step in fulfilling pledges she made during last November’s election campaign.

Deputy Lord Mayor Houssam Abiad is proposing the council investigate an automated system for UParks to allow city and North Adelaide businesses to validate customers’ parking tickets.

He said businesses would basically pay for the first hour of parking in the council-run UParks for their customers.

“This will give an opportunity to businesses to access cheaper parking and provide their customers with packaged deals and free parking,” he said.

He said this, alongside removing outdoor dining fees for complying businesses, would help improve Adelaide’s “beating heart”.

“We need to rethink how we do business as a council,” he said. “We need to work alongside business, not against it.”

Cr Abiad said his proposals would set the council up for an exciting term.

“I’m 100 per cent behind the Lord Mayor and her leadership to affect change,” he said. “I’m excited about what the next four years will hold.

“This budget is about delivering more for ratepayers and cutting costs for businesses.”

Other proposals that will be discussed at the meeting Tuesday night include freezing the rate in the dollar for a sixth-straight year, increasing the tree canopy in the southwest and northwest of the city to 20 per cent by 2021 and creating a centralised hub for frontline services.

A rate rebate for heritage properties could also be investigated, while Chinatown’s Moonta St might be enhanced as a multicultural hub.

Ms Verschoor said a new iteration of the Splash Adelaide program, which brought pop-up events to the city, would also assist in addressing some of the issues facing struggling areas, such as Melbourne, O’Connell and Hutt streets.

She said the council was already tackling cycleways, waste management and affordable and social housing.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3552 Post by Nathan » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:00 pm

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3553 Post by Patrick_27 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:38 pm

Nathan wrote:
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:wallbash:
? What's wrong with this idea? Sure, it might bring more cars into the city, but until private vehicles are matched with adequate/reliable public transport, I don't think we can expect people to go without. And this is coming from someone who rides a bike, rides on PT and wants to see an expansion of our train/tram network in favour of a low-dependancy on car CBD.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3554 Post by Nathan » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:58 pm

Patrick_27 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:38 pm
Nathan wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:00 pm
:wallbash:
? What's wrong with this idea? Sure, it might bring more cars into the city, but until private vehicles are matched with adequate/reliable public transport, I don't think we can expect people to go without. And this is coming from someone who rides a bike, rides on PT and wants to see an expansion of our train/tram network in favour of a low-dependancy on car CBD.
No one is "going without". If they encourage the idea of free parking in the city, they're going to have a hell of a time getting people away from it in the future.

This is also a council that is debating whether it's worth spending money on the aquatic centre, but then willing to forgo a major income stream in an effort to offset the local rags insistence that there's an ACC led "war on cars".

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

#3555 Post by mshagg » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:56 am

Patrick_27 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:38 pm
Nathan wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:00 pm
:wallbash:
? What's wrong with this idea? Sure, it might bring more cars into the city, but until private vehicles are matched with adequate/reliable public transport, I don't think we can expect people to go without. And this is coming from someone who rides a bike, rides on PT and wants to see an expansion of our train/tram network in favour of a low-dependancy on car CBD.
There is no shortage of parking in the CBD. They're going to turn rundle road into a defacto parking lot on the back of perceptions that lime scooter riding pinkos hate small business and landlords (collectively "ratepayers"). Further choking the roads up with traffic is an interesting way of making a city 'more liveable' and I'd be very surprised if they're able to maintain what is a rare example of a bike like with appropriate buffer zone when they jam a row of parked cars down the middle of rundle rd.

Of course transport options need to be part of a broader strategy but I don't see a lot of noise coming from the ACC about our landlord-in-chief's decision to cut bus services in the state budget.

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