[U/C] SkyCity Adelaide Casino Expansion | 55m | 12 Levels | Hotel

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#886 Post by claybro » Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:44 pm

Finally Adelaide gets a highly reflective glass facade, and interesting un-boxlike shape, but it is on a squat 12 storey structure. How about cladding the awful 80's intercontinental in this shiny glass, and we might be on to something. The shape is ok enough but that awful faux sandstone on concrete look so cheap and naassty. It would lift the whole set now with the casino and the new convention buildings.

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#887 Post by gnrc_louis » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:05 pm

claybro wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:44 pm
Finally Adelaide gets a highly reflective glass facade, and interesting un-boxlike shape, but it is on a squat 12 storey structure. How about cladding the awful 80's intercontinental in this shiny glass, and we might be on to something. The shape is ok enough but that awful faux sandstone on concrete look so cheap and naassty. It would lift the whole set now with the casino and the new convention buildings.
Dubai, Melbourne etc have a number of high rise buildings with “highly reflective glass facades,” many of which in my opinion will age terribly/look ridiculously gaudy already. I bet in 30ish years this will have aged much worse than the intercon has.

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#888 Post by Mpol03 » Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:12 pm

There is no way this will age worse than that.

Melbourne’s towers look I finally better. Even their cheaper designs.

Each to their own. :lol:

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#889 Post by EBG » Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:32 pm

An example of a Melbourne building with highly reflective glass, a 68 story apartment building in south Melbourne not far from the cassino. Please click on picture for bigger.
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#890 Post by Ho Really » Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:03 pm

gnrc_louis wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:05 pm
Dubai, Melbourne etc have a number of high rise buildings with “highly reflective glass facades,” many of which in my opinion will age terribly/look ridiculously gaudy already. I bet in 30ish years this will have aged much worse than the intercon has.
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There is no way this will age worse than that.

Melbourne’s towers look I finally better. Even their cheaper designs.

Each to their own. :lol:
Reflective glass buildings and gold/bronze tinted mirror glass have been around for a while. SkyCity's shape might give it a chance to last a little longer than square boxes but as gnrc_louis said it will age. In fact I think it has already aged. The Intercontinental has aged quite well but it could be much better if the metal canopy, podium and tops of the lift shafts were redesigned.

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#891 Post by Mpol03 » Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:11 pm

That’s subjective but thanks for your input.

I don’t disagree about the aging of a trend, I do strongly disagree with the Intercontinental. It looked dated 20 years ago. It looks awful now.

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#892 Post by ml69 » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:04 am

gnrc_louis wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:05 pm
claybro wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:44 pm
Finally Adelaide gets a highly reflective glass facade, and interesting un-boxlike shape, but it is on a squat 12 storey structure. How about cladding the awful 80's intercontinental in this shiny glass, and we might be on to something. The shape is ok enough but that awful faux sandstone on concrete look so cheap and naassty. It would lift the whole set now with the casino and the new convention buildings.
Dubai, Melbourne etc have a number of high rise buildings with “highly reflective glass facades,” many of which in my opinion will age terribly/look ridiculously gaudy already. I bet in 30ish years this will have aged much worse than the intercon has.
Many highly-reflective modernist glass buildings have aged very well.

A great example is the (former) John Hancock tower in Boston by I M Pei. It’s 44 years old now. Still looks fantastic.

It’s the overdesigned post-modern stuff which hasn’t aged well.

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#893 Post by Ho Really » Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:55 am

Mpol03 wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:11 pm
That’s subjective but thanks for your input.

I don’t disagree about the aging of a trend, I do strongly disagree with the Intercontinental. It looked dated 20 years ago. It looks awful now.
Yes all this is subjective.

At the time the InterContinental (Hyatt Regency) was built it was the trend (unfortunately). The fake sandstone cladding is not a favourite of mine either. I would accept it if the panels had an ornate design etched into them. Anyhow, that's something for architects and designers to think about if they ever look at using this sort of stuff again.

Of course all building designs and styles may go out of fashion at some stage and some may come back into style with changes, but the difference between the two buildings in question is that the design of SkyCity is not new. That's why in my opinion it has already aged. If they had added some other design elements (possibly vertical like the columns in the ARS building) it would be more original. Or, if they added a second colour glass at random or even horizontally and not necessarily at every floor level it would breakup the plain look. I'm not saying what we have here is not original to Adelaide, which it certainly is, but it's not in the world context. Stone buildings have more character. The InterContinental is not a classic by all means and I agree some aspects make it awful. As I said previously if some changes were made it would definitely improve, but not by turning it into a shiny glass tower as suggested by claybro.

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#894 Post by AndyWelsh » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:26 pm

I was walking back from the Oval today and was struck by how dark this building looked on such a bright sunny day. Maybe internal illumination will help?

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#895 Post by EBG » Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:30 pm

It looks dark around midday when the sun is directly over head. The best time to see it at its best is when the sun is lower on the horizon

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#896 Post by AndyWelsh » Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:02 am

EBG wrote:It looks dark around midday when the sun is directly over head. The best time to see it at its best is when the sun is lower on the horizon
That’ll be what happened then as I took these photos right around midday.


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#897 Post by A-Town » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:17 pm

From yesterday
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#898 Post by ozisnowman » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:24 am

A-Town wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:17 pm
From yesterday

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Looking at how short fat and overwhelming for that area I’m not sold on this. I believe a thinner but taller building would have been better especially considering we will get the taller walker building there anyway.

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#899 Post by claybro » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:16 am

AndyWelsh wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:02 am
EBG wrote:It looks dark around midday when the sun is directly over head. The best time to see it at its best is when the sun is lower on the horizon
That’ll be what happened then as I took these photos right around midday.


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But the sun is never directly overhead at this time of year. It is already well to the north. This building does look very squat, dark and out of place as observed.

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#900 Post by how good is he » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:53 pm

So in hindsight does the forum think they should have just used a metallic glass? So a permanent colour [ie bronze, gold etc] instead of the reflective glass, whose appearance is reliant/determined by the time of day, amount of sun etc

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