[APP] 42-56 Franklin Street | ~98m | 22lvls | Office

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[APP] Re: 42-56 Franklin Street | 94m | 21lvls | Office

#301 Post by Plasmatron » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:45 am

I just quickly whipped up this modified version (with no "blank" walls).
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#302 Post by timtam20292 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:09 am

I'm confused. Is the blank wall made of glass or not?

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#303 Post by Pikey » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:53 am

timtam20292 wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:09 am
I'm confused. Is the blank wall made of glass or not?
The blank walls are 100% precast concrete, as listed in the DA. "ARTICULATED CONCRETE PRECAST PANELS TO EASTERN FACADE" Eastern side "PRECAST CONCRETE PANEL" Western side. Concrete both ends.

Fundamentally, this is a safe, very vanilla design. Not a real surprise from Kyren, expect the final result to be considerably worse.
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[APP] Re: 42-56 Franklin Street | 94m | 21lvls | Office

#304 Post by ml69 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:04 am

Pikey wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:53 am
timtam20292 wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:09 am
I'm confused. Is the blank wall made of glass or not?
The blank walls are 100% precast concrete, as listed in the DA. "ARTICULATED CONCRETE PRECAST PANELS TO EASTERN FACADE" Eastern side "PRECAST CONCRETE PANEL" Western side. Concrete both ends.

Fundamentally, this is a safe, very vanilla design. Not a real surprise from Kyren, expect the final result to be considerably worse.
What else have Kyren built recently?

Is there even demand for another office building like this?

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[APP] Re: 42-56 Franklin Street | 94m | 21lvls | Office

#305 Post by HiTouch » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:42 am

ml69 wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:04 am
Pikey wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:53 am
timtam20292 wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:09 am
I'm confused. Is the blank wall made of glass or not?
The blank walls are 100% precast concrete, as listed in the DA. "ARTICULATED CONCRETE PRECAST PANELS TO EASTERN FACADE" Eastern side "PRECAST CONCRETE PANEL" Western side. Concrete both ends.

Fundamentally, this is a safe, very vanilla design. Not a real surprise from Kyren, expect the final result to be considerably worse.
What else have Kyren built recently?

Is there even demand for another office building like this?
They built Dwell. :(

Time will tell in regards to demand. Kyren haven’t been known to wait around once their developments are approved. They’ll go hard on promotion
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#306 Post by timtam20292 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:38 am

Ugh :wallbash:

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#307 Post by Pikey » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:40 pm

HiTouch wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:42 am
ml69 wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:04 am
Pikey wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:53 am


The blank walls are 100% precast concrete, as listed in the DA. "ARTICULATED CONCRETE PRECAST PANELS TO EASTERN FACADE" Eastern side "PRECAST CONCRETE PANEL" Western side. Concrete both ends.

Fundamentally, this is a safe, very vanilla design. Not a real surprise from Kyren, expect the final result to be considerably worse.
What else have Kyren built recently?

Is there even demand for another office building like this?
They built Dwell. :(

Time will tell in regards to demand. Karen haven’t been know to wait around once their developments are approved. They’ll go hard on promotion
I'm fully prepared for Adelaidean to be 37 levels of average. I'm sure the facade will be adjusted down to save cost and we'll end up with a tapestry of miss-matched curtains through transparent glass.
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#308 Post by Norman » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:45 pm

Pikey wrote:
HiTouch wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:42 am
ml69 wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:04 am
What else have Kyren built recently?

Is there even demand for another office building like this?
They built Dwell. :(

Time will tell in regards to demand. Karen haven’t been know to wait around once their developments are approved. They’ll go hard on promotion
I'm fully prepared for Adelaidean to be 37 levels of average. I'm sure the facade will be adjusted down to save cost and we'll end up with a tapestry of miss-matched curtains through transparent glass.
Didn't they also build the PWC and Quest buildings nextdoor?

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#309 Post by Pikey » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:47 pm

Norman wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:45 pm
Pikey wrote:
HiTouch wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:42 am


They built Dwell. :(

Time will tell in regards to demand. Karen haven’t been know to wait around once their developments are approved. They’ll go hard on promotion
I'm fully prepared for Adelaidean to be 37 levels of average. I'm sure the facade will be adjusted down to save cost and we'll end up with a tapestry of miss-matched curtains through transparent glass.
Didn't they also build the PWC and Quest buildings nextdoor?
Yep, not exactly the most inspiring outcomes either.
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#310 Post by Will » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:10 pm

Wow that is ugly. Too much emphasis placed on the horizontal. Makes the building look really squat and boxy. Hope it never gets built.

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#311 Post by madelaide » Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:36 pm

Plasmatron wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:45 am
I just quickly whipped up this modified version (with no "blank" walls).
nice work Plasmatron. seamless photoshopping on that re-rendering of the 'blank wall'. mad professional. if you've been doing more of these for other buildings, would enjoy seeing them.

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#312 Post by Patrick_27 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:53 pm

Samaras have a good track record for delivering projects here in Adelaide so I'd say this is a sure thing, though the quality doesn't always match up to what's promised, I think this is a necessary filler project and will help move along further development along Franklin Street but the 'blank' walls (or whatever you want to call them) are both unsightly and unnecessary. For one, Samaras owns the building immediately west, the least they could do is provide glass for the small portion of this that pokes up behind and the likelihood of anything similar in height going up next door to the east I'd say is small. I don't know whether it's law but this city and its architects seem to have a thing for building blank walls on the boundaries preempting further development that probably won't happen. This doesn't seem to be happening so much elsewhere in Australia (correct me if I'm wrong), well at-least not with such large buildings.

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#313 Post by how good is he » Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:32 am

Yes the requirement for fire proof walls on the boundaries makes this happen. So any possible fire can’t jump/travel across. However as for them being blank..I guess they could start requiring them to have art work etc?

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#314 Post by SRW » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:25 am

Yes, there’s fire boundary regulations, but in the case of this building, they’ve already been prepared to set back at some levels to allow openings. I don’t understand why they wouldn’t at more levels, except to avoid glazing costs. The floor plates would still be substantial even with more of a set back.
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#315 Post by Ho Really » Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:21 pm

What do you guys expect from Samaras? He builds with cost in mind to maximise ROI. Overall it's not as bad as most of you think, it's an office tower! I'd rather see this than an empty lot. Of course more glass on the top floors facing east would make this much better. Hopefully they'll make changes accordingly.

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