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[CAN] New Courts Precinct | $500m

#1 Post by Ben » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:47 pm

I still hope the JPE one gets up at this stage.

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Ageing Supreme Court of South Australia buildings to get $500m overhaul

by: Chief Court Reporter Sean Fewster

From: The Advertiser

September 12, 2013

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A REVAMPED courts precinct, worth an estimated $500 million, will form the centrepiece of a "massive reform" of the state's justice system, the Premier says.
Premier Jay Weatherill, Attorney-General John Rau and Infrastructure Minister Tom Koutsantonis this afternoon announced expressions of interest were being sought, from private developers, to “transform” the courts precinct.

The concept would see the heritage-listed Supreme Court buildings on the corner of King William St and Victoria Square kept, but the much-maligned courts library building behind them torn down.

Mr Weatherill said it would be replaced with a “first-class 21st Century justice facility” that would be “hardwired” with information technology resources to establish a paperless justice system.

That facility would unify the Supreme, District, Youth and Coroners Courts in a single location - benefiting not only lawyers and the judiciary, but the entire community.

“Obviously this is a very dilapidated precinct (currently), and those who use the courts have had to put up with substandard facilities for too long,” he said.

“The justice system needs massive reform ... someone who has suffered a wrong should not have to wait around for that to be dealt with and justice to be done.

“We need to deliver more efficient and timely justice for the people of South Australia.”

The state’s archaic court facilities have been a source of dispute between judges, lawyers and multiple state governments for more than a decade.

Problems with the ageing facilities include the need for:

BIGGER courtrooms with disabled access.

IMPROVED infrastructure, including modern audiovisual equipment.

REFURBISHED elevators connecting courtrooms with underground cells.

In 2011, then-Chief Justice John Doyle could not access his own office, following a fall, because the building was not wheelchair-accessible.

Earlier this year, Chief Justice Chris Kourakis revealed the courts’ IT system was 25 years old and prone to failing as often as once a week.

Today, Mr Rau said the new facilities would address those problems.

“We will have a more efficient justice system because we will hardwire technologies into the building itself,” he said.

“Everything that is now done with paper will be done electronically, from the initial issuing of a summons through to the hearing of cases.

“Our whole system is capable of being managed electronically, which is light-years away from where the courts are presently.”

Mr Weatherill said a new court building meant fewer delays due to lack of court space and therefore less grief and angst for victims awaiting justice.

He stressed that the project would be undertaken by private developers on Crown land.

He said the State Government would then lease the facility back from the developers, as it currently does with the Sir Samuel Way Building.

“The cost of that lease has been budgeted for in the State Budget,” he said.

“There’s a very strong likelihood of success (with this project) if we get the sort of proposals that match what we’ve allocated for in the Budget.”

Mr Koutsantonis said the goal was to unify the higher courts in one place.

“With the Adelaide Magistrates Court on the opposite corner of Victoria Square, South Australia would be unique in being able to provide a fully integrated precinct,” he said.

He said that, as a commercial project, space in the new courts could be leased to other government departments including the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions.

The developers could also lease space to private law firms, cafes and other legal industry businesses.

“Preliminary investigations indicate a privately funded project of this scale has the potential to deliver some 1500 construction jobs,” he said.

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#2 Post by [Shuz] » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:06 pm

I like the 1st and 3rd designs.
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#3 Post by Ben » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:20 pm

the 2nd looks like UNO's brother.

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#4 Post by spiller » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:25 pm

I love the first design, but it would be better without that copper coloured facade. A clear facade would be much more desirable.

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#5 Post by rhino » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:06 pm

1st and 4th designs for mine.
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#6 Post by Brucetiki » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:39 pm

Design 1 for me - the top of the building looks like an abstract 'scales of justice'...

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#7 Post by Shahkar » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:05 pm

Wasn't the first one priced at a billion dollars? Since this is $500m.... :roll:

Between the remaining three, 4th for me.

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#8 Post by Pants » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:43 pm

Yeah, the first one was an unsolicited proposal by JPE. The next 3 are government sourced concepts specifically for the proposal being called for. It's unlikely that any of them will resemble the final design as it'll be a private design and construct project, but they're the best ones to go on for now.

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#9 Post by skyliner » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:15 pm

The 4th design is my preference, it's not too diferent from the surrounding high rise, but bigger, brighter,and more imposing - looks like at least 30 floors. I like the footpath usage they show. Hope the lower floor gives access to coffee shops/ eateries and other street interactive functions.

Pushes again for upgrading KWS Sth tramline facilities.

HOPE this eventuates - it seems the long planned KWS 'spine' is going to develop afterall.

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#10 Post by serca » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:54 pm

Yeah the first concept had a price tag of 1 billion . The 4th looks interesting some height 30+ stories would be good

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#11 Post by Ho Really » Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:44 pm

The JPE proposal was the best. Now all they have to do is cut it back to fit the price tag. Also minus all those trees etc., which are useless (do a Google search on the matter).

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#12 Post by Patrick_27 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:39 pm

Ho Really wrote:The JPE proposal was the best. Now all they have to do is cut it back to fit the price tag. Also minus all those trees etc., which are useless (do a Google search on the matter).

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Why would you state 'those trees' are 'useless'? Greenery is a component that can make or break a concept design.

And another thing, if they have to cut back a design to make it fit into their projected budget; then they shouldn't be going with that design, they should find something that looks great and also meets their budget without the need to cut features.

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#13 Post by Kasey771 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:07 pm

rhino wrote:1st and 4th designs for mine.
I couldn't agree more. the openess of VicSquare means an iconic building will have many nice viewing angles no matter what else is built around the area. Hope the architects dont give us a damp squib of a building.
Big infrastructure investments are usually under-valued and & over-criticized while in the planning stage. It's much easier to envision the here and now costs and inconveniences, and far more difficult to imagine fully the eventual benefits.

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#14 Post by Nathan » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:10 pm

Patrick_27 wrote:Why would you state 'those trees' are 'useless'? Greenery is a component that can make or break a concept design.
He's referring to the trees on the roof and the sky deck. There's been a few articles around that discuss the trend of sticking trees high up buildings in architectural renderings, and the reality of doing so.

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#15 Post by claybro » Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:20 pm

Please Please, not more square boxes! Even the "unorthodox" design has offset boxes stacked upon each other at varying angles. And as usual, a façade right on the footpath. I get the need for large square floorplates in a small market like Adelaide to appeal to a wider range of tenants. But here is an opportunity, in a purpose built building, on a prominent site, being used by government/legal professions to have some angles, curves and setback with a smaller footprint and more height. It would make more of a feature of the heritage buildings on the corner, as they would not be overpowered at street level.

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