[U/C] 104-106 Currie Street | 117m | 33lvl | Sofitel Hotel

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#616 Post by floplo » Thu May 14, 2020 8:27 pm

We haven't been told otherwise. I believe the signage removal from the Corebox happened because the size of the box changed when they reached the apartment floors and they probably decided that it's not worth the cost to put up new signage up for the remainder of the time.

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#617 Post by citywatcher » Thu May 14, 2020 10:42 pm

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citywatcher wrote:
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It's Adelaide not New York
This is what we get


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Building designs and finishes of a high quality and standard shouldn't be exclusive to location.
They're not likely to spend the big bucks required here though

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#618 Post by Algernon » Thu May 14, 2020 11:18 pm

rev wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 7:02 pm
citywatcher wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 5:20 pm
It's Adelaide not New York
This is what we get


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Building designs and finishes of a high quality and standard shouldn't be exclusive to location.
The location (property value) is fundamental to the choice in design quality and materials....

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#619 Post by rev » Fri May 15, 2020 5:30 am

Algernon wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 11:18 pm
rev wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 7:02 pm
citywatcher wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 5:20 pm
It's Adelaide not New York
This is what we get


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Building designs and finishes of a high quality and standard shouldn't be exclusive to location.
The location (property value) is fundamental to the choice in design quality and materials....
Thats why there's third world countries and cities with better looking towers then most of what goes up here.

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#620 Post by cmet » Fri May 15, 2020 10:31 am

rev wrote:
Algernon wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 11:18 pm
rev wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 7:02 pm
Building designs and finishes of a high quality and standard shouldn't be exclusive to location.
The location (property value) is fundamental to the choice in design quality and materials....
Thats why there's third world countries and cities with better looking towers then most of what goes up here.
Normally because there’s very little supply of a certain asset class, so there is actually some built up demand for higher quality appartments/office etc.

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#621 Post by floplo » Fri May 15, 2020 10:43 am

rev wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 5:30 am
Algernon wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 11:18 pm
rev wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 7:02 pm


Building designs and finishes of a high quality and standard shouldn't be exclusive to location.
The location (property value) is fundamental to the choice in design quality and materials....
Thats why there's third world countries and cities with better looking towers then most of what goes up here.
Because centrally located real estate in a dynamic, vibrant, multi-million metropolis that is a government, transportation, communication and financial hub for a large countries, even if they are in the third world, is surely more expensive than a plot in a flat, peripheral, sclerotic country town with an empty hinterland...

but we are getting off-topic....

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#622 Post by Will » Fri May 15, 2020 4:20 pm

floplo wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 10:43 am

Because centrally located real estate in a dynamic, vibrant, multi-million metropolis that is a government, transportation, communication and financial hub for a large countries, even if they are in the third world, is surely more expensive than a plot in a flat, peripheral, sclerotic country town with an empty hinterland...

but we are getting off-topic....
If you feel that why, why are you on this forum?

Furthermore, have you all forgotten the obvious. No construction worker in the third world will be on $80K a year, no crane operator in the third world will be on $120k a year....
In the third world there probably isn't WorkCover, RDOs, green and rainbow tape....
In the third world, the application and development process is probably not as rigorous as here. You could probably bribe an official for approval in most developing countries....

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#623 Post by citywatcher » Fri May 15, 2020 5:17 pm

Will wrote:
floplo wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 10:43 am

Because centrally located real estate in a dynamic, vibrant, multi-million metropolis that is a government, transportation, communication and financial hub for a large countries, even if they are in the third world, is surely more expensive than a plot in a flat, peripheral, sclerotic country town with an empty hinterland...

but we are getting off-topic....
If you feel that why, why are you on this forum?

Furthermore, have you all forgotten the obvious. No construction worker in the third world will be on $80K a year, no crane operator in the third world will be on $120k a year....
In the third world there probably isn't WorkCover, RDOs, green and rainbow tape....
In the third world, the application and development process is probably not as rigorous as here. You could probably bribe an official for approval in most developing countries....
If you think that those are the reasons why then why are YOU on this forum.

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#624 Post by Norman » Fri May 15, 2020 5:24 pm

Anyway, photo from today

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#625 Post by Will » Fri May 15, 2020 7:30 pm

citywatcher wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 5:17 pm
Will wrote:
floplo wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 10:43 am

Because centrally located real estate in a dynamic, vibrant, multi-million metropolis that is a government, transportation, communication and financial hub for a large countries, even if they are in the third world, is surely more expensive than a plot in a flat, peripheral, sclerotic country town with an empty hinterland...

but we are getting off-topic....
If you feel that why, why are you on this forum?

Furthermore, have you all forgotten the obvious. No construction worker in the third world will be on $80K a year, no crane operator in the third world will be on $120k a year....
In the third world there probably isn't WorkCover, RDOs, green and rainbow tape....
In the third world, the application and development process is probably not as rigorous as here. You could probably bribe an official for approval in most developing countries....
If you think that those are the reasons why then why are YOU on this forum.

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What exactly are you trying to say. Your post makes no sense.

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#626 Post by aceman » Fri May 15, 2020 8:46 pm

Norman wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 5:24 pm
Anyway, photo from today

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what height would the core be sitting at right now? I'm thinking around 50?

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#627 Post by floplo » Fri May 15, 2020 9:00 pm

Will wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 4:20 pm
If you feel that why, why are you on this forum?
I'm here because I live in Adelaide, am interested in city development, construction and architecture, and I'm in this particular thread because I have a vested interest in the building....

to bring the discussion back to a little bit more relevance, below is an image of a just opened Sofitel hotel in Beijing, that has substantial architectural similarity to this one in Adelaide. Personally I might have a slight preference for the Beijing one, but I don't think they really differ much and am doubtful that the Beijing one would actually work as well in the Adelaide location.

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#628 Post by floplo » Fri May 15, 2020 9:02 pm

aceman wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 8:46 pm
what height would the core be sitting at right now? I'm thinking around 50?
in meters? It should be about floor 28/29, so that means it's closer to about a 100m

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#629 Post by aceman » Fri May 15, 2020 9:13 pm

floplo wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 9:02 pm
aceman wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 8:46 pm
what height would the core be sitting at right now? I'm thinking around 50?
in meters? It should be about floor 28/29, so that means it's closer to about a 100m
ok, I based my figure on the bus being around 2.5m. to be 100m would require around 40 buses stacked on top of each other. I have no idea what each floor would measure.

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#630 Post by floplo » Fri May 15, 2020 9:47 pm

aceman wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 9:13 pm
floplo wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 9:02 pm
aceman wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 8:46 pm
what height would the core be sitting at right now? I'm thinking around 50?
in meters? It should be about floor 28/29, so that means it's closer to about a 100m
ok, I based my figure on the bus being around 2.5m. to be 100m would require around 40 buses stacked on top of each other. I have no idea what each floor would measure.
I did it by the ratio of constructed floors to total floors times the total height. Room heights are 2.7m so with celing/floorplate inbetween levels each is somewhere over 3 meters.

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