[APP] 203 North Terrace | 109m | 33 levels | Student Accom

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#136 Post by Ho Really » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:09 am

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Instead of climate change rallies, thousands of people should be swarming the streets of Adelaide to protest against this hideous tower ever seeing the light of day.
Yeah - this building is definitely an existential threat to humanity!
If you believe CO2 is the main driver of global warming then this building is a threat. Concrete (cement) releases large amounts of CO2. So yes this ugly thing will contribute. Of course that's if CO2 is the culprit.

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#137 Post by nath91 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:36 am

What the actual F*ck is that.

This original design, although still a typical Adelaide box, was way better.
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#138 Post by CDJ » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:05 pm

I agree with others - this is an absolute monstrosity.
I understand that student accommodation projects have tight budgets, but even so, what architect would be willing to put their name to this?
There has to be a limit and hopefully SCAP will draw a line in the sand on this one.

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#139 Post by Ben » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:15 pm

I was looking through the document and this was the original proposal before the design review panel got involved.

this is being developed by what i believe is an Adelaide based developer. they have no pride in what they are building or for the city obviously.
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#140 Post by HiTouch » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:19 pm

Ben wrote:I was looking through the document and this was the original proposal before the design review panel got involved.

this is being developed by what i believe is an Adelaide based developer. they have no pride in what they are building or for the city obviously.
Shieeeeeet that's horrible.

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#141 Post by SRW » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:56 pm

Ben wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:15 pm
I was looking through the document and this was the original proposal before the design review panel got involved.

this is being developed by what i believe is an Adelaide based developer. they have no pride in what they are building or for the city obviously.
Can you share the document?
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#143 Post by gnrc_louis » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:09 pm

It’s an odd looking building - almost Soviet esque (which contrary to what some seem to think on this forum, doesn’t mean inherently bad - check out Moscow University). Unfortunately though in this case it is pretty bad imo.

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#144 Post by Mpol03 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:33 pm

Id rather they refurbish the old building and leave it at that. Each of these last three proposals look like trash.

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#145 Post by Nort » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:43 pm

Oh dear...
SCAP wrote: Overall the design quality presented is considered to adequately satisfy
expectations of building design and appearance encouraged by the Capital City
Zone policy.

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#146 Post by Chicago » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:03 pm

Nort wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:43 pm
Oh dear...
SCAP wrote: Overall the design quality presented is considered to adequately satisfy
expectations of building design and appearance encouraged by the Capital City
Zone policy.
Talk about low standards!

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#147 Post by SRW » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:11 pm

Nort wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:43 pm
Oh dear...
SCAP wrote: Overall the design quality presented is considered to adequately satisfy
expectations of building design and appearance encouraged by the Capital City
Zone policy.
To be fair, the planning officers can only assess the proposal neutrally against the letter of the law, and it's worth noting there are number of reserved matters and planning conditions suggested. It's up to the commission panel to consider things more holistically and with some discretion.
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#148 Post by SRW » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:09 pm

I'm going to go against the grain and say I think the proposal is reasonable in form but concerning in materiality. Until maybe last week, it appears Brown Falconer had designed the building to be entirely covered in a metal mesh (applied over glazing and precast sections). This has been deleted and it is now proposed to be an exposed precast concrete with 'repetitious rebate' pattern and 'anodised aluminium vertical fins in pale bronze' affixed to all elevations. There is, however, no clarity of the colour of the precast. It's hard to imagine the relationship between the metal fins and concrete. It could look amazing if there's tonal harmony, but it could look disjointed if not. Their choice of Brighton Lite precast doesn't instil confidence given Dwell used it and ended up a monotonous grey instead of two-tone sandstone.

On a more positive note, the following design progression proves the utility of the design review process (it also resulted in a much improved interior):
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Most of the visualisations in the document had not been updated to reflect the proposed new external treatment. This is one of the few that gives an idea:
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My ideal scenario would be the titles of this site and 200 North Tce being rejoined and a development conceived that addresses the neighbouring heritage elements as one property. In lieu of that, however, this proposal responds fairly to the location for its desired purpose as student accomodation -- pending materiality. As a silver lining, the heritage façade will be restored with reinstatement of symmetrical windows where the vehicle entry was cut through. Also, an extra 341 residents in the location is a positive.
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#149 Post by phenom » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:50 pm

It's another bait and switch, and hardly new to the development scene (propose a tower with decent materials and design elements, get approval, then dumb down the hell out of it) but to me this is - on the face of it - exceptionally egregious.

This isn't a 15 storey high student tower wedged between some other buildings of equal or higher height and/or in a relatively 'industrial' part of the CBD. I can see it being approved (unfortunately) because - well, money talks and "jobs" will be bandied about to get it through. This is like Dwell on steroids in terms of height, prominent location and unappealing aesthetics. Hugely bad move for the city especially given all the regeneration going on along that part of North Terrace.

If it is built, I can only hope another couple of even taller buildings go up in its vicinity sooner rather than later to partially block it - as per Dwell.

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#150 Post by ynotsfables » Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:15 pm

I actually don't mind it the sandstone look seems to blend in with the adjacent heritage.

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