[VIS] Memorial Drive upgrade

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[VIS] Re: Memorial Drive upgrade

#361 Post by Algernon » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:07 pm

SBD: from memory (albeit a long one for me), the hard surface area can accommodate 4 courts side by side. It's hard to make out in that render, but I think they just drew up a single court in the middle. With a little help from the angle of the render, it looks plausible that all seats have some sort of view of that court. In reality it's a nonsense for mine. The stands are roughly 50m+ long and a tennis court is around 11m wide. With a court situated in the middle of the stand, that leaves almost 80% of the spectators not aligned with the court. If the stands had some curve you could have a few more patrons facing the court, but of course the stands are straight as a ruler. If the stands hold 5,000 then I wouldn't count on more than 1,500 at the most being ideal to view a match (and even then, some spectators would be craning their necks). Better hope the match doesn't go to 5 sets :lol:

wrt your question of suitability for any other sports, basketball has similar dimensions to tennis but it would be slightly better by aligning the court east-west. It can't accommodate a soccer pitch in any form other than futsal. I wouldn't think it suitable for concerts either unless some serious engineering is involved in the accoustic performance of that roof (which I doubt).

*edit* I just wanted to add, I don't necessarily think this proposal is a bad one. The old brick facade of the stadium has its charm, and it could be quite a beautiful venue. But it won't be what the Advertiser/Polly is selling it as by a long shot. A nice boutique venue yes, but nothing more.

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[VIS] Re: Memorial Drive upgrade

#362 Post by kenget » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:31 pm

There are no seats on one side? Please explain why this is $10m well spent? Will the Ball Kids need to run half way to the Adelaide Oval entrance to retrieve a ball after a rally? The seating plan would need a complete redesign if this is to be adequate. :2cents:

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[VIS] Re: Memorial Drive upgrade

#363 Post by arki » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:35 pm

The individual courts are closed off for matches with temporary seating behind the ball barriers (not sure if they will be up for the new tournament, which would be unusual, but there will still be ball barriers around the court. So no, no one will be running to the other end of AO just as they didn't when we held the Adelaide International.

I presume that for the tournament the facility will house two courts separated by temporary stands - still not ideal and will be far from a capacity of 5000.

Also, not sure if it has been posted before but Tennis Australia will be contributing $1m for minor upgrades of the stands. Not sure what this entails but hopefully it actually improves the amenities on match days because in it's current state the facility will be an embarrassment.

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[VIS] Re: Memorial Drive upgrade

#364 Post by Brucetiki » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:44 pm

Algernon wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:07 pm
SBD: from memory (albeit a long one for me), the hard surface area can accommodate 4 courts side by side. It's hard to make out in that render, but I think they just drew up a single court in the middle. With a little help from the angle of the render, it looks plausible that all seats have some sort of view of that court. In reality it's a nonsense for mine. The stands are roughly 50m+ long and a tennis court is around 11m wide. With a court situated in the middle of the stand, that leaves almost 80% of the spectators not aligned with the court. If the stands had some curve you could have a few more patrons facing the court, but of course the stands are straight as a ruler. If the stands hold 5,000 then I wouldn't count on more than 1,500 at the most being ideal to view a match (and even then, some spectators would be craning their necks). Better hope the match doesn't go to 5 sets :lol:

wrt your question of suitability for any other sports, basketball has similar dimensions to tennis but it would be slightly better by aligning the court east-west. It can't accommodate a soccer pitch in any form other than futsal. I wouldn't think it suitable for concerts either unless some serious engineering is involved in the accoustic performance of that roof (which I doubt).

*edit* I just wanted to add, I don't necessarily think this proposal is a bad one. The old brick facade of the stadium has its charm, and it could be quite a beautiful venue. But it won't be what the Advertiser/Polly is selling it as by a long shot. A nice boutique venue yes, but nothing more.
Memorial Drive has always had 3 show courts side by side. In the Rebound Ace days, the middle court was Rebound Ace (which was used for the Adelaide International), while the courts either side were grass courts (used for Davis Cup ties). When the Australian Open changed to Plexicushion, all 3 show courts became Plexicusion. This meant they used the two outer courts for the final Adelaide International (with the selling point being people could watch two matches at the same time). The WTC used this set up too.

For the Davis Cup last weekend, they used the middle court, with a corporate marquee on one side and temporary stand on the other. The seating at the extreme ends of the court were GA, with the prime seating in front of the court reserved seating. I'd say there'd be a similar set up for the new tournament next year (though I'd dare say the marquee would be replaced with another seating with courtside boxes) - I can't see them going down the setting up two courts side by side path, unless it's necessary to fit both tournaments in.

Also, only Grand Slams are best of 5 for men these days - the Davis Cup dropped to best of 3 this year.

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