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#496 Post by citywatcher » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:39 pm

Nort made a good post
What is actually going on
To me it's still swp

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#497 Post by timtam20292 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:43 pm

I said it's under construction to me earlier but now that I've thought about it, any demolition still means SWP. Perhaps once the crane is up then we can say under construction.

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#498 Post by SRW » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:19 pm

See the guide pinned to this forum. This is site works in progress until there’s actually a building rising.
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#499 Post by Jaymz » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:35 pm

SRW wrote:
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See the guide pinned to this forum. This is site works in progress until there’s actually a building rising.
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#500 Post by rev » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:19 pm

HiTouch wrote:
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#501 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:29 pm

Hasn't a new structure / core box looking thing gone up on the old Rhino Room site? True there's no crane on site as yet but looks like a very active construction going on to me either side of the carpark driveway.
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#502 Post by Nort » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:03 am

timtam20292 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:43 pm
I said it's under construction to me earlier but now that I've thought about it, any demolition still means SWP. Perhaps once the crane is up then we can say under construction.
[Shuz] wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:29 pm
Hasn't a new structure / core box looking thing gone up on the old Rhino Room site? True there's no crane on site as yet but looks like a very active construction going on to me either side of the carpark driveway.
I'd look at it this way.

Let's imagine they go bust right now and everything stops and the site sits in limbo for 10 years.

Would we in 10 years time look at the site and say "there is the partially constructed Adelaidean"? or would we look at it like the North Adelaide Le-Cornu site and say "there's the empty block that was intended for _______"?

Right now I think it would be the latter, so technically not yet UC.

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#503 Post by GrowAdelaide » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:53 am

Nort wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:03 am
timtam20292 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:43 pm
I said it's under construction to me earlier but now that I've thought about it, any demolition still means SWP. Perhaps once the crane is up then we can say under construction.
[Shuz] wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:29 pm
Hasn't a new structure / core box looking thing gone up on the old Rhino Room site? True there's no crane on site as yet but looks like a very active construction going on to me either side of the carpark driveway.
I'd look at it this way.

Let's imagine they go bust right now and everything stops and the site sits in limbo for 10 years.

Would we in 10 years time look at the site and say "there is the partially constructed Adelaidean"? or would we look at it like the North Adelaide Le-Cornu site and say "there's the empty block that was intended for _______"?

Right now I think it would be the latter, so technically not yet UC.
I beg to differ. The definition supplied is
U/C: Under Construction
- actual building progress is being made

A building structure on site (albeit unclear as to exactly what it is) has been constructed, there is no reason to believe it is not part of the main structure as it is within the bounds of the construction site, therefore U/C seems the right description to me.

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#504 Post by crawf » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:45 am

It's very unusual how this project being constructed at the moment. One half is basically a construction site, whilst the other half is a demolition site. Smack bang in the middle is a roadway. I think for now, it's best to leave it at SWP.

Btw with Dwell crane's increased height, it gives you a very good indication of the sheer impact Adelaidean will have on the skyline. In particular you can see the crane from the western end of Rundle Mall.

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#505 Post by Nort » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:49 am

GrowAdelaide wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:53 am
Nort wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:03 am
timtam20292 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:43 pm
I said it's under construction to me earlier but now that I've thought about it, any demolition still means SWP. Perhaps once the crane is up then we can say under construction.
[Shuz] wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:29 pm
Hasn't a new structure / core box looking thing gone up on the old Rhino Room site? True there's no crane on site as yet but looks like a very active construction going on to me either side of the carpark driveway.
I'd look at it this way.

Let's imagine they go bust right now and everything stops and the site sits in limbo for 10 years.

Would we in 10 years time look at the site and say "there is the partially constructed Adelaidean"? or would we look at it like the North Adelaide Le-Cornu site and say "there's the empty block that was intended for _______"?

Right now I think it would be the latter, so technically not yet UC.
I beg to differ. The definition supplied is
U/C: Under Construction
- actual building progress is being made

A building structure on site (albeit unclear as to exactly what it is) has been constructed, there is no reason to believe it is not part of the main structure as it is within the bounds of the construction site, therefore U/C seems the right description to me.
I could definitely be wrong, but there was basically no footings work done for the structure that has been built - I would be extremely surprised if it was part of the base for a 37 storey building.

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#506 Post by GrowAdelaide » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:57 am

Wont keep quoting previous posts as it's getting a bit long. Re the last comment though, they previously dug down a good two metres here and there is a significant pile, amongst a number of others already set, right in the middle of the floor inside the structure. Will try to get a photo at some stage.

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#507 Post by Ben » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:46 pm

Id think most of demolition will be complete by the weekend.

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#508 Post by GrowAdelaide » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:13 pm

I still believe this constitutes construction but not attached to the idea. Now my question is "What IS this?
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#509 Post by timtam20292 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:37 pm

That makes me want to say “under construction” too. Yeah what is it?

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#510 Post by Pikey » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:42 pm

Looking at the plans below, it's a stairwell for the podium section.

As the full height tower is located above the section currently being demolished and just over the car park access, full height structural piling would not have commenced. I'm assuming it will do once the site is clear.

As the stairwell is part of the podium proper, I feel this can be classified as U/C.

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