[U/C] 11 Frome Street | 135m | 37 Levels | Crowne Plaza / Adelaidean | New tallest

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#1111 Post by noted » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:44 pm

I suspect I might be in an overwhelming minority here, but I actually prefer Adelaidean to Realm. I like the treatment of the balconies a lot better, and as I said in an earlier post when viewed from a distance (ie North Adelaide looking back at the city) it looks fantastic.

Both Adelaidean and Realm are great additions to the skyline, and if the new Sofitel on Currie is true to its renders it will be the best of the lot. Exciting times!

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#1112 Post by dingies1985 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:55 pm

I agree. Both gonna be great for Adelaide, when you consider Westpac is our tallest now, i am happy that the Adelaidean will take its place, anything's better then brown.

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#1113 Post by Patrick_27 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:58 pm

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Given Adelaidean and Realm are fairly set back in this airport view is it likely they may not appear in line with Westpac building when completed? Or is the ground slightly higher. Have marked up a red line where I thought they may top out around.
Adelaide is a relatively flat isn't it? So wouldn't the height be even closer to Westpac House than this?

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#1114 Post by ChillyPhilly » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:57 pm

Patrick_27 wrote:
nath91 wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:20 pm
Given Adelaidean and Realm are fairly set back in this airport view is it likely they may not appear in line with Westpac building when completed? Or is the ground slightly higher. Have marked up a red line where I thought they may top out around.
Adelaide is a relatively flat isn't it? So wouldn't the height be even closer to Westpac House than this?
That's what I would have thought. Sloping is very gradual in some spots around the CBD (towards West Terrace, particularly along North Terrace), but it's pretty much level between Morphett Street and East Terrace.
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#1115 Post by Algernon » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:19 pm

cmet wrote:
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One of the best shots taken to date, can much better see the building in context here. Great job.




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#1116 Post by Mpol03 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:28 pm

I wish the glass was highly reflective. And a more unusual colour. I feel the blue green tone is already fifteen years dated?

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#1117 Post by nath91 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:54 pm

phenom wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:09 pm
nath91 wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:20 pm
Given Adelaidean and Realm are fairly set back in this airport view is it likely they may not appear in line with Westpac building when completed? Or is the ground slightly higher. Have marked up a red line where I thought they may top out around.
My guess is that Adelaidean will be roughly where the top of the crane currently is (you can just make it out in your photo). Realm will appear slightly taller than that because it's closer to the camera but more or less at the same level. I guess Sofitel will look as tall as both of them from that vantage point given how much closer it is and the fact it's only ~15-20m shorter.

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Ah yep nice one that makes sense. Have always wanted this pyramid view from the airport disrupted with more talls so its good there’ll be some density.

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#1118 Post by CharlSx » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:20 pm

I took this photo at lunch from the north western side of Hindmarsh Square. It should be quite imposing from this angle once it's topped out.
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#1119 Post by timtam20292 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:35 pm

It's certainly not ugly in my opinion.

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#1120 Post by Bob » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:01 am

Adelaidean construction timeline update

Level 26 Poured last week
Level 27 Being Poured this week (weather permitting)
The building is likely to 'top out' (level 36) by the end of October
Residential Settlements are likely to occur March/April next year
The Hotel is still on track for a February opening

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#1121 Post by normh » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:37 am

ChillyPhilly wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:57 pm
Patrick_27 wrote:
nath91 wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:20 pm
Given Adelaidean and Realm are fairly set back in this airport view is it likely they may not appear in line with Westpac building when completed? Or is the ground slightly higher. Have marked up a red line where I thought they may top out around.
Adelaide is a relatively flat isn't it? So wouldn't the height be even closer to Westpac House than this?
That's what I would have thought. Sloping is very gradual in some spots around the CBD (towards West Terrace, particularly along North Terrace), but it's pretty much level between Morphett Street and East Terrace.
I've just had a look at http://location.sa.gov.au/viewer/ on the topographic map and Adelaide's high spot seems to be near the Calvary Hospital (50m) and in a south easterly direction. Everything else slopes away at varying rates with a little bump here and there.

The run down North Terrace look something like -: NthTce/EastTce = 39m. NthTce/Frome=40m. NthTce/Pultney = 43m. NthTce/KingW = 41. NthTce/Victoria = 33m. NthTce/Morphett = 31m and NthTce/West = 35m.

The Adelaidean is right on the 42m contour line. The Realm is about 20% of the way between the 44m and 46m line and Westpac is very close to the 44m line and the contour spacing is quite large at that point so.

If I take the Westpac as 131.6m, not sure what the final heights will be for the Realm and Adelaidean but take their much discussed heights of 132m and 134m respectively with the contour levels added in, I'm guessing the Westpac is 175.6m above sealevel, and Realm and Adelaidean are both 176m above sea level. :-)

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#1122 Post by SRW » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:26 am

normh wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:37 am
If I take the Westpac as 131.6m, not sure what the final heights will be for the Realm and Adelaidean but take their much discussed heights of 132m and 134m respectively with the contour levels added in, I'm guessing the Westpac is 175.6m above sealevel, and Realm and Adelaidean are both 176m above sea level. :-)
Pretty good. The DA for Adelaidean says above sea level it will be 172.9m to roof, 175.5m to lift core, 177.5m to lighting rod.
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#1123 Post by normh » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:07 am

SRW wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:26 am
normh wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:37 am
If I take the Westpac as 131.6m, not sure what the final heights will be for the Realm and Adelaidean but take their much discussed heights of 132m and 134m respectively with the contour levels added in, I'm guessing the Westpac is 175.6m above sealevel, and Realm and Adelaidean are both 176m above sea level. :-)
Pretty good. The DA for Adelaidean says above sea level it will be 172.9m to roof, 175.5m to lift core, 177.5m to lighting rod.
Thanks for that, so where do I find these DA's so I don't have to dig to figure out the visually tallest building :) not that anyone one can pick 40cm in 132m :D but it might give someone a different angle for bragging rights :lol:

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#1124 Post by rev » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:42 am

What's the purpose of using sea level as a measuring point?

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#1125 Post by SRW » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:21 am

normh wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:07 am
SRW wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:26 am
normh wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:37 am
If I take the Westpac as 131.6m, not sure what the final heights will be for the Realm and Adelaidean but take their much discussed heights of 132m and 134m respectively with the contour levels added in, I'm guessing the Westpac is 175.6m above sealevel, and Realm and Adelaidean are both 176m above sea level. :-)
Pretty good. The DA for Adelaidean says above sea level it will be 172.9m to roof, 175.5m to lift core, 177.5m to lighting rod.
Thanks for that, so where do I find these DA's so I don't have to dig to figure out the visually tallest building :) not that anyone one can pick 40cm in 132m :D but it might give someone a different angle for bragging rights :lol:
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Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:42 am
What's the purpose of using sea level as a measuring point?
It probably doesn't mean much to us on the street looking up, but it is a static and common reference point (AHD) for planning.
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