[CAN] 51-57 Hutt Street | 49m | 13 Levels | Mixed

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#91 Post by Ben » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:16 am

hell No.
Development Site, 51-57 Hutt Street, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description: Clear, level, seal and line mark vacant land for use as ancillary car park
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#92 Post by timtam20292 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:24 am

:wallbash:

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#93 Post by Norman » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:27 am

Surely this will be rejected?

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#94 Post by Nort » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:44 am

This had better be rejected, to do otherwise is to give other dodgy developers a green light to do the same thing.

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#95 Post by HiTouch » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:50 am

This may sound dumb but since when is it "ancillary" to provide a carpark when the whole point of the original proposal was to build a building? Surely it's illegal to mislead the DAC when they do this.
It's like me saying "I'm going to knock these houses down and build a shopping centre here" and after knocking down the original buildings putting in a submission to change the proposal to a manufacturing factory. Obviously that wouldn't be acceptable so why would this be acceptable?

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#96 Post by how good is he » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:21 pm

I think the other problem is how long could it remain vacant. While I agree with the sentiments it could be another 3-5 years (+) before something happens on it, so is it better to keep it as a dust bowl as vacant earth or at least pretty it up and/or bitumise it so it has some benefit in the meantime as a carpark to the traders/ customers in the area?

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#97 Post by Nort » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:24 pm

how good is he wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:21 pm
I think the other problem is how long could it remain vacant. While I agree with the sentiments it could be another 3-5 years (+) before something happens on it, so is it better to keep it as a dust bowl as vacant earth or at least pretty it up and/or bitumise it so it has some benefit in the meantime as a carpark to the traders/ customers in the area?
Grass the site and maintain it. If you don't have the resources to maintain an empty lot that you are directly responsible for creating then sell it on.

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#98 Post by HiTouch » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:27 pm

They were perfectly good heritage houses :wallbash:

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#99 Post by baytram366 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:49 pm

Well this is a bit of a kick in the balls. I hope this doesn't become a regular thing

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#100 Post by wilkiebarkid » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:44 pm

HiTouch wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:27 pm
They were perfectly good heritage houses :wallbash:

May they rest in pieces!

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#101 Post by HiTouch » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:55 pm

wilkiebarkid wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:44 pm
HiTouch wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:27 pm
They were perfectly good heritage houses :wallbash:

May they rest in pieces!
These guys are like the construction company in that movie (Up), only that they knock down the house and make a carpark before the helium balloon situation.

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#102 Post by Llessur2002 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:42 pm

Fair points.
Lost 1880s Hutt St cottages to be replaced with paved car park under plans lodged with Adelaide City Council

Two historic cottages sacrificed for a now-abandoned apartment tower plan would be replaced with a parking lot under plans lodged with Adelaide City Council.

But the council’s deputy mayor Houssam Abiad said there was “no chance in hell” the development, lodged on Tuesday by car park operator Park Fast, would be allowed.

The application comes three weeks after The Advertiser revealed developers of the 13-storey Opus apartments project had shelved the $18 million, 41-apartment project on the corner of Hutt St and Ifould St.

At the time, former Adelaide City Councillor Sandy Wilkinson described the demolition of the existing 1880s bluestone cottages as “needless”, arguing the buildings were in good condition.

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The properties had been recommended for local heritage protection but had been left at the mercy of the bulldozer after the former State Government rejected their listing.

A copy of the car park application lodged with the council says the proposal will be for a sealed “ancillary car park”.

Franco Boscaini, who was project-managing the Opus apartment proposal, refused to comment on the car park plans.

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But Mr Wilkinson said he was concerned any approval would send a message to developers that they could demolish buildings for car parks.

“We don’t want to see buildings demolished and vacant sites become car parks,” he said.

“If this (proposal) is permitted it provides an incentive for property owners to clear a site so the can have an open lot car park.

“If they had kept the (existing) offices, they could’ve had a car park behind the villas, there was a hell of a lot of room behind the villas.”

He said other historic buildings sacrificed for car parks in the city’s east include a character home at the eastern end of Flinders Street and two historic villas on the western and eastern sides of Hutt Street near the House of Chow restaurant.

Mr Abiad said development approval processes must be changed so that demolition can not happen until a developer has secured enough sales and finance to begin construction of their approved building.

“It’s such a shame they went and demolished really good heritage buildings, they could’ve activated in the meantime and until such time as they got their pre-sales,” he said.

“Every building that is demolished on a main street, these developers are taking a lifeline out of the mainstreet; we’ve seen the same impact of a vacant site at 88 O’Connell Street.”

Central Ward councillor Jessy Khera said the Hutt St issue highlighted a “deeper problem with the economy” of a lack of demand for heritage buildings.
From: https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenge ... fefe05a45b

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#103 Post by Patrick_27 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:11 pm

So yeah, the next time someone wants to call me a NIMBY for believing that the loss of heritage and character buildings should be limited where possible, you can now perhaps understand where I am coming from with this...

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#104 Post by A-Town » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:57 pm

Disgraceful. More car parks for the city with the highest number of car parks per capita in the CBD in Australia. This better get rejected

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#105 Post by HiTouch » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:02 pm

Patrick_27 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:11 pm
So yeah, the next time someone wants to call me a NIMBY for believing that the loss of heritage and character buildings should be limited where possible, you can now perhaps understand where I am coming from with this...
Totally understand where you’re coming from. It’s ridiculous.

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