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#16 Post by Patrick_27 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:04 pm

Had better not be a stadium incorporating soccer/netball/basketball/tennis/music, scheduling would be a nightmare and one or more sports codes or music are likely to lose out.

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#17 Post by how good is he » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:11 pm

I think if it happens it will be exactly like that ..kinda like a big hall for hire.. and first in best dressed.

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#18 Post by Patrick_27 » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:54 am

Patrick_27 wrote:
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Had better not be a stadium incorporating soccer/netball/basketball/tennis/music, scheduling would be a nightmare and one or more sports codes or music are likely to lose out.
I should elaborate on that point, I hope it's an arena incorporating netball/basketball/tennis/music, not the idea touted of a stadium which allows for soccer as well as aforementioned codes. Soccer should have its own facility, whether that be Hindmarsh or a new stadium.

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#19 Post by rev » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:26 am

Lets be honest, the Liberals have no plan, no idea what they're going to do.
It's just nice words (they hope) will swing voters their way.

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#20 Post by gnrc_louis » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:51 am

UPDATED | A new city stadium that could see A-League soccer shift from Hindmarsh to the CBD is now firmly in the State Government’s sights, as Premier Steven Marshall today used parliament’s reopening to restate – and reshape – his first-term agenda.
Indaily has updated their article and is reporting this to be a rectangular grass stadium.

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#21 Post by Brucetiki » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:36 am

gnrc_louis wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:47 pm
While I would love a new rectangular city stadium to watch Adelaide United at, the Aleague seems in a near terminal decline atm. I think a joint use basketball/tennis/netball/music arena should come first.
This. Crowds are well down across the A-League, and United is no exception. They only managed 10,000 to the game against the Victory the other week (and that was with a massive contingent of Victory fans coming over for the game). Other games are now hovering around the 6-7000 mark (I don't even think they got that on Saturday night). I don't think a new stadium is going to make United (or the A-League for that matter) any more relevant in the eyes of the sporting public.

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#22 Post by Brucetiki » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:38 am

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Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:02 pm
Agree a combined basketball, tennis, netball, music arena needs to be first. It should be roughly over current Memorial Drive / Next Generator precinct.

They should sell of entertainment centre, netball stadium, titanium arena and such. Would go someway of the way to paying for the facilities.

After that they should investigate a combined Soccer/Rugby stadium in the city with the hope to attract a rugby team to South Australia as well as increase the patronage to Adelaide United Games.


Basketbball/Tennis/Netball/Music - 15,000 spectators should be aimed for
Soccer/Rugby - 25 - 30,000 spectators should be aimed for
Titianium Security Arena is now privately owned, so whether that stays or goes is largely irrelvant in the discussion for a new inner-city arena.

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#23 Post by rev » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:16 am

The 36ers play at the entertainment centre now anyway.

A new re rectangular stadium would boost AU crowds, by how much who knows. But the FFA need to promote the game better, there needs to be an advertising blitz that appeals to people, snd they need to open up the league to more foreign players. Not the nonsense marquee players thay saw has beens come out for one last big pay day. Soccer is the most played sport in Australia, the interest and market is there they just need to build a league that people are willing to attend games at.

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#24 Post by Nathan » Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:00 pm

Small anecdote, my son is getting to the age where he's interested in going to see a few sports games, A-League included. Hindmarsh is walking distance away so thought, sure, I'll find a game that we can go see. Except, every single home game this season is a night game. Not one game played on a weekend afternoon. So we're not going. If they want to grow attendances, maybe they should work on scheduling first before building a new stadium.

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#25 Post by SRW » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:40 pm

It's a pity we're debating the need of yet another sport stadium without considering how our state's arts infrastructure is being left behind. In addition to the Adelaide Symphony Orchestra, the State Theatre Company is now saying that the Festival Centre is no longer fit for purpose. As Sydney Opera House embarks on a $150 million reno and other states invest in buildings and events, Adelaide risks leaving its once leading-edge arts reputation as another footnote of past, better days.
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#26 Post by arki » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:49 pm

Typical uninspired idea from the Marshall government in a panic attempt to create a legacy which doesn't include the decimation of our events calendar, unpopular privatization of our railways and skyrocketing unemployment. Personally I hope this goes the way of 'GlobeLink' because even if it were feasible, I would have little faith in them providing a successful solution.

As already stated there are a number of reasons that this is a bad idea - the A-League is quickly becoming irrelevant (4 clubs have posted their worst average attendances in the past 2 season), a possible yet highly unlikely NRL team in Adelaide would not require a stadium any bigger than 15k (even last years game got around this at AO) and the CG bid which would have created a need and directed a good amount of federal funding towards projects such as this is DOA.

Meanwhile with the Adelaide International being a yearly event, up to 6 months of basketball for the 36'rs and regular live entertainment events held throughout the year I don't understand how it can be argued that the next addition to our sports infrastructure is not a multi-purpose arena ala Melbourne Arena.

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#27 Post by rev » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:44 pm

Nathan wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:00 pm
Small anecdote, my son is getting to the age where he's interested in going to see a few sports games, A-League included. Hindmarsh is walking distance away so thought, sure, I'll find a game that we can go see. Except, every single home game this season is a night game. Not one game played on a weekend afternoon. So we're not going. If they want to grow attendances, maybe they should work on scheduling first before building a new stadium.
And then you'll post how there's no cover from the sun and they should think about playing games later.
In other words, they need to build a modern stadium with all the amenities.

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#28 Post by dbl96 » Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:33 pm

Waewick wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:53 pm
citywatcher wrote:
Waewick wrote:So after 16 years straight of Labor, when the state has been in terminal decline, it's the Libs holding them back for the last 2.

Yep, can see that.
Terminal decline ?
In your mind only

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Well terminal could be an exaggeration, we are yet to see that.

But decline is spot on.
South Australia isn't really in decline these days. The economy is fairly stagnant, but only when you compare it to other Australian states which have been performing well above the average for developed countries.

The Liberals are furthering that stagnation however, by their complete lack of action on almost every front. The Liberals were elected, without any plan, because after 16 years of Labor, people simply felt like a change. As a result, they were elected despite lacking studied, costed plans for anything. This is reflected in the litany of fruitless thought bubbles which the Liberals have been producing ever since the election. Just in terms of infrastructure, the liberals have talked about and then scrapped the tram right-turn and "GlobeLink". They have taken little real action to progress the next stages of major projects like the North-South Corridor and rail electrification, and their promised rail tunnel and review of public transport options are nowhere to be seen. And of course, just to be productive, they have scrapped a whole host of useful projects started by Labor, most notably the tram expansion, rail extensions, and expansions of the cycle network. They don't even seem open to considering logically important issues like the the question of a link between the NS Corridor and SE Freeway. All of this means that ever since the Liberals got into power, South Australia has gone nowhere. Meanwhile the other states race further ahead.

Under Labor things were actually getting done. South Australia was moving ahead.

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#29 Post by RiseHigh » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:04 pm

Couldn’t agree more

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#30 Post by ml69 » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:11 pm

dbl96 wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:33 pm
South Australia isn't really in decline these days. The economy is fairly stagnant, but only when you compare it to other Australian states which have been performing well above the average for developed countries.

The Liberals are furthering that stagnation however, by their complete lack of action on almost every front. The Liberals were elected, without any plan, because after 16 years of Labor, people simply felt like a change. As a result, they were elected despite lacking studied, costed plans for anything. This is reflected in the litany of fruitless thought bubbles which the Liberals have been producing ever since the election. Just in terms of infrastructure, the liberals have talked about and then scrapped the tram right-turn and "GlobeLink". They have taken little real action to progress the next stages of major projects like the North-South Corridor and rail electrification, and their promised rail tunnel and review of public transport options are nowhere to be seen. And of course, just to be productive, they have scrapped a whole host of useful projects started by Labor, most notably the tram expansion, rail extensions, and expansions of the cycle network. They don't even seem open to considering logically important issues like the the question of a link between the NS Corridor and SE Freeway. All of this means that ever since the Liberals got into power, South Australia has gone nowhere. Meanwhile the other states race further ahead.

Under Labor things were actually getting done. South Australia was moving ahead.
I voted Liberal, but I have to agree with you on those infrastructure points.

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