[APP] Former LeCornu Redevelopment | Mixed Use

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[APP] Re: Former LeCornu Redevelopment | Mixed Use

#1006 Post by mshagg » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:41 am

Kasey771 wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:21 am
mshagg wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:19 am
Announcement on the ACC site:

http://www.cityofadelaide.com.au/media- ... h-adelaide

Given the inability of council to decide on how to build a bike lane I'll be very surprised if this process goes smoothly.
Are there numerous councillors with an ideological vendetta against developing the LeCornu site? as there are against protected bike lanes.
No it's more of a concern about their ability to arrive at a consensus view. Recent examples demonstrate that even when resolutions do get passed aggrieved councillors opposing the decisions then go to work fear mongering within the community to ensure the process is drawn out or that the scope of consultation is limited such that only a very narrow perspective gets captured.

As a decision making body they are completely dysfunctional - it's little wonder the administration tries to avoid them as much as possible lol.

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[APP] Re: Former LeCornu Redevelopment | Mixed Use

#1007 Post by Kasey771 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:44 am

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mshagg wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:19 am
Announcement on the ACC site:

http://www.cityofadelaide.com.au/media- ... h-adelaide

Given the inability of council to decide on how to build a bike lane I'll be very surprised if this process goes smoothly.
Are there numerous councillors with an ideological vendetta against developing the LeCornu site? as there are against protected bike lanes.
More so vested power and influence of North Adelaide residents.
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#1008 Post by Brucetiki » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:06 pm

Build a Fantastic Furniture there :lol:

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#1009 Post by HeapsGood » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:46 pm

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It should be heritage listed and remain vacant!Image
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#1010 Post by timtam20292 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:58 pm

Brucetiki wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:06 pm
Build a Fantastic Furniture there :lol:
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#1011 Post by Torrens_5022 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:03 pm

I see a bland development here, apartments 4 to 6 stories, open space, townhouses facing Centenary Street, some ground level retail, an Aldi would work well here, basement parking covering the entire site.

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#1012 Post by mgb » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:48 pm

Maybe the council can onsell the land to a developer to build something nice..

Just like they did with U2 on Waymouth.

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#1013 Post by wilkiebarkid » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:44 pm

mshagg wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:19 am
Announcement on the ACC site:

http://www.cityofadelaide.com.au/media- ... h-adelaide

Given the inability of council to decide on how to build a bike lane I'll be very surprised if this process goes smoothly.
Well said mshagg. Scary thought having Moran & Co in charge of this.

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#1014 Post by OlympusAnt » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:54 pm

Another 5 years of feasibility studies to come then :applause: :applause:
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#1015 Post by Kasey771 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:29 pm

OlympusAnt wrote:Another 5 years of feasibility studies to come then :applause: :applause:
And if the reports/studies deliver an outcome at odds to what the all-powerful all-seeing all-knowing councillors ‘know’ to be true, then simply continue to commission reports/studies until they get the one that they want. Should kill a few decades of time with what I call the Frome Street bikeway strategy. ImageImageImage


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#1016 Post by EBG » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:23 am

I have been waiting since 1985 when leCornu's closed.

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#1017 Post by monotonehell » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:55 am

Overheard comment today.
The government shouldn't be in the business of building stuff like this. They should leave it up to the private sector.
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Exit on the right in the direction of travel.

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#1018 Post by crowdoc » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:22 pm

The new bikeway under construction in Frome Rd is looking great. I think the council have finally got it right with footpath bikeway and a lane of parking/traffic flexibility. This could spread quickly now a good solution has been demonstrated.

Clearly, there has been a market failure with the le Cornu site development. The government has a role in such situations to protect the wider community and economy. The Council will be accountable to voters in the end and has to make something happen. This is a change in the path for this site, things will not be the same now a new owner with community responsibility is in place. It is not the time to look back in anger but to move forward.

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#1019 Post by monotonehell » Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:30 am

People are telling me the entire fence has been removed from the site.
Exit on the right in the direction of travel.

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#1020 Post by Ben » Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:38 am

Yes the fence is gone and it has been grassed and is now open to the public.

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