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Re: #U/C: St. Clair (Woodville/Cheltenham) - $500m

#151 Post by Allkai » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:14 pm

Ah cool, thanks for the reply Howie.

Now, anyone know if the gym is any good?

Hehehe... :D

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Re: #U/C: St. Clair (Woodville/Cheltenham) - $500m

#152 Post by rev » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:57 pm

Xaragmata wrote:Some shots of St Clair yesterday - seems to be a wasted opportunity so far:
To be fair, this isn't the TOD part of the development. That will be on the racecourse site.

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Re: #U/C: St. Clair (Woodville/Cheltenham) - $500m

#153 Post by Prince George » Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:56 pm

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Xaragmata wrote:Some shots of St Clair yesterday - seems to be a wasted opportunity so far:
To be fair, this isn't the TOD part of the development. That will be on the racecourse site.
rev, do you mean "those pictures would be on the racecourse site, the TOD part will be elsewhere"?

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Re: #U/C: St. Clair (Woodville/Cheltenham) - $500m

#154 Post by rev » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:13 pm

The TOD development proposal whathaveyou that we have seen in renders, is going to be located on the racecourse site that is being excavated/whatever at the moment.

The photos posted so far, are of the former Actil/Sheridan factory site next door. The first stage of the St Clair development.

Land is on sale btw at the racecourse, starting at 270sqm from $254,000.

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Re: #U/C: St. Clair (Woodville/Cheltenham) - $500m

#155 Post by AG » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:45 pm

I took a visit to St Clair yesterday and there's been some further progress on the eastern part of the site. The old Actil Factory site is well advanced and approaching completion. This area is predominantly detached homes.

On the south side of the new oval, the infrastructure is currently being built and a few houses are under construction at this location as well. It's not easy getting in and out of the suburb at the moment as Actil Avenue is the only access currently open.

When I was talking to the sales people at the info centre, they said the southern section of the site stretching through to Cheltenham Parade will commence in early 2013, which includes the retail precinct, the St Clair TOD at the south western corner and the new train station. The northern and western parts of the racecourse part of site will then come on line gradually in the following years. The TOD shouldn't be confused with the Woodville TOD, which is adjacent to Woodville Station and is part of the adjacent Woodville Village project.

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Re: #U/C: St. Clair (Woodville/Cheltenham) - $500m

#156 Post by Wayno » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:03 am

Apparently demolition of the Cheltenham park grandstand has started today...
Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.

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Re: #U/C: St. Clair (Woodville/Cheltenham) - $500m

#157 Post by Port Adelaide Fan » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:27 pm

Wayno wrote:Apparently demolition of the Cheltenham park grandstand has started today...
Grandstand demolition goes ahead at Cheltenham

DEMOLITION of the historic grandstand at Cheltenham Racecourse started over the weekend, despite attempts by residents and the local council to save it.

Workers began tearing down parts of the Wyndham Hill Smith Grandstand on Saturday, September 3, less than two months after Charles Sturt Council voted to spend $30,000 investigating options to retain the 1895-built grandstand.

The money is in addition to $3000 already budgeted to investigate the grandstand’s heritage value.

The structure is being torn down to make way for the 1200-home St Clair housing development being built on the racecourse and an adjacent former factory site on Actil Rd.

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Re: #U/C: St. Clair (Woodville/Cheltenham) - $500m

#158 Post by Port Adelaide Fan » Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:17 pm

New bid to save grandstand

CHARLES Sturt Council has launched a last ditch effort to save the ill-fated grandstand at Cheltenham Racecourse.

The council voted this week to add the Wyndham Hill Smith Grandstand to a new local heritage list in a bid to stop the razing of the rest of the 1895-built structure.

Demolition of the grandstand started earlier this month, to make way for the 1200-home St Clair housing development which is being built at the racecourse and an adjoining former factory site on Actil Rd.

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Re: #U/C: St. Clair (Woodville/Cheltenham) - $500m

#159 Post by crawf » Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:21 pm

Give up already

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Re: #U/C: St. Clair (Woodville/Cheltenham) - $500m

#160 Post by [Shuz] » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:44 am

Hear, hear.
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#161 Post by dsriggs » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:15 am

Have a nice view of people's backyards from that stand!

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Re: #U/C: St. Clair (Woodville/Cheltenham) - $500m

#162 Post by stumpjumper » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:06 pm

This wasn't in the brochure...

NEW $6 MILLION POKIES CENTRE FOR ST CLAIR REDEVELOPMENT

More than half the residents of the new St Clair subdivision on Woodville Road will have to drive past the doors of a sparkling new gaming centre on their way home.

SAJC is demolishing its Lucky Horseshoe gaming rooms at the former racecourse site - well west of the various entrances to the new subdivision - and rebuilding in a position giving them far better exposure to residents.

Messenger, April 14, 2011:
CHELTENHAM MP Jay Weatherill has joined the fight against a pokies venue proposed for the 1200-home St Clair development.

“I share the concerns that the residents have about a poker machine venue being so closely associated with a new residential development,” Mr Weatherill told the Weekly Times Messenger.

“Certainly, we’ll be making submissions to all the appropriate authorities that are making judgments.”
Ha ha. Weatherill has made no such submissions. In fact, in the quote above, he really made no statement of support for the residents at all. He just 'shares the concerns...'

It sounds a bit like 'Only a vote for Weatherill will stop the Liberals from subdividing Cheltenham Racecourse' - Weatherill's campaign slogan in 2002.

Weatherill will say, in his best polite lawyer's voice, whatever he thinks you want to hear at any time. Then he will do what he likes.

We're going to have to get used to silky smooth Weatherill's verbal tricks. Analyse a few of his statements - he rarely says anything definite at all.

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Re: #U/C: St. Clair (Woodville/Cheltenham) - $500m

#163 Post by Howie » Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:17 pm

I think that was always the plan from day one. Lucky Horseshoe was going to have to find an alternate location, as it was part of the Cheltenham Grandstand which is to be demolished. At least it's on Torrens Road and not in the middle of St Clair.

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#164 Post by Omicron » Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:59 pm

stumpjumper wrote: Before anyone thinks I'm pro-Liberal - if the Liberals were any good, they'd be in government, wouldn't they? They couldn't even get their act together to beat a despised premier and a head case of a treasurer. Why not? When the Libs weren't playing Family Feud they were pouring scarce funds into protecting the margins of sitting members high up the pecking order while Labor was fighting hard in the marginal seats on which a win for either side depended, making the 2010 election a choice between the corrupt and the stupid.
Haha. So true.

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Re: #U/C: St. Clair (Woodville/Cheltenham) - $500m

#165 Post by stumpjumper » Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:50 pm

I think that was always the plan from day one. Lucky Horseshoe was going to have to find an alternate location, as it was part of the Cheltenham Grandstand which is to be demolished. At least it's on Torrens Road and not in the middle of St Clair.
Most likely, Howie.

I believe that Council's Development Assessment Panel voted something like 3-2 in favour of the Lucky Horseshoe relocation. On one hand, the present Council is none too friendly to the Cheltenham redevelopment in general; on the other hand, DAPs can't express opinions about the social value of developments - they're supposed to judge only in realisation to the council's Development Plan.

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