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News & Developments: Elizabeth & Salisbury

#1 Post by AG » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:00 am

50 years on, a new vision for the city of Elizabeth
By XANTHE KLEINIG
12jan06
FIFTY years after Elizabeth was founded, Playford Council has a new vision for the city.

The council is considering three scenarios, including promoting the city as a second central business district for the metropolitan area.

This is a response to the State Government's population policy for two million residents in the state by 2050 - an increase of 500,000.

Playford general manager Cate Atkinson puts the case that if the state is to achieve these figures that will mean "significant growth" on the metropolitan fringe.

"About 75 per cent would live in metropolitan Adelaide," she says. "How do we achieve that type of vibrant growth with the sort of housing we live in. How would we accommodate that population?"

More than 80 per cent of land available for residential development is in six councils, with Playford and Onkaparinga holding more 1000 hectares of land for development. For it to achieve growth in line with the state's population policy, Playford will need to grow to almost 200,000 residents, more than doubling its population.

This has implications for housing density and the urban growth boundary that could see Elizabeth shedding single-storey, four-bedroom homes for townhouses.

The discussion paper, A Population Vision for the City of Playford sets out three options for the city from high growth to no substantial change. It highlights the challenge councils will have to meet to plan for more people and the services they will need. The paper is being sent to government agencies and community groups after being endorsed by the council in December.

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#2 Post by Howie » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:33 am

Regardless of what people say, there is heaps of opportunies in the Elizabeth areas for development. The city centre has come up very nicely with the recent developments, it's 20 minutes via salisbury highway then down elizabeth way. It could be a rather large city within a city... similar to knox city in Melbourne.

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#3 Post by AG » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:02 am

Elizabeth was originally supposed to be a separate city from the rest of Adelaide when it came to be in the 1950s. Then Adelaide began developing north of Dry Creek rapidly and took in Elizabeth as well.

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#4 Post by shibby » Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:26 pm

sounds good to have a 2nd cbd. hopefully itll have a higher hieght limit than the adelaide one. lol.

where do they plan to place the 500,000 people?

so far only 100,000 have been proposed to be placed within the elizabeth area. are there any plans to transform a country town into a regional satellite city> eg: pt lincoln?

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#5 Post by Will » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:43 am

It is good to see that community leaders are actually taking seriously the possibility of SA having 2 million people. If this is taken seriously then it can happen.

Back to topic: I would preffer a second CBD to be at Mawson Lakes, it is a much better place to attract business than Elizabeth.

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#6 Post by Howie » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:55 am

I think we should concentrate on reinvigorating our current cbd before thinking about putting cbd's anywhere else.

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#7 Post by Ben » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:19 pm

I think they will need to do more then upgrade things to make Elizabeth better. Maybe some crime prevention programs and other programs to help disadvantaged people otherwise it will just be a small patch over a massive hole so to speak.

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#8 Post by rhino » Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:25 pm

shibby wrote:are there any plans to transform a country town into a regional satellite city> eg: pt lincoln?
Mount Barker, Littlehampton and Nairne are growing incredibly quickly. They are the first places you come to on the other side of the watershed, and the Adelaide-Crafers freeway has reduced travel time for commuters, making the Hills a more attractive place to live. Murray Bridge is getting bigger too, and industry is moving out there which is also a big help.

South Australia is very Adelaide-centric. If industry can be developed in the regional centres, people will move there, where land will be more affordable and work will be available. Unfortunately the cost of moving manufactured goods to a greater market prohibits the manufacturing industries form moving to the regional centres, so we're reliant on other things like aquaculture, mining, forestry, agriculture as an employment base in regional South Australia.
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#9 Post by Algernon » Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:52 am

rhino wrote:
shibby wrote:are there any plans to transform a country town into a regional satellite city> eg: pt lincoln?
Mount Barker, Littlehampton and Nairne are growing incredibly quickly. They are the first places you come to on the other side of the watershed, and the Adelaide-Crafers freeway has reduced travel time for commuters, making the Hills a more attractive place to live. Murray Bridge is getting bigger too, and industry is moving out there which is also a big help.

South Australia is very Adelaide-centric. If industry can be developed in the regional centres, people will move there, where land will be more affordable and work will be available. Unfortunately the cost of moving manufactured goods to a greater market prohibits the manufacturing industries form moving to the regional centres, so we're reliant on other things like aquaculture, mining, forestry, agriculture as an employment base in regional South Australia.
Decentralisation of the state population in to several major centres is the greatest asset QLD, NSW and VIC have, and something desperately needed in South Australia. We often talk of the importance of developing industry, exports and the like, but as a state we're yet to realise the huge potential of intra state trade between major centres, the reasons for which are obvious - geographically we're severely limited in establishing new cities that are sufficiently distanced that they can operate with a level of autonomy from Adelaide. As AG rightly points out, our largest foray in to an industrialised satellite city, Elizabeth, was swallowed up within decades of its establishment.

The greatest opportunity we have for a satellite city with good growth potential is Mount Gambier, current population 25,000. It has good water reserves, an attractive landscape (both natural and man made), to attract tourism and new residents - unlike the drty sheep paddock at Monarto, which was solely reliant on the Murray for water and an utterly forgettable landscape. And importantly, it sits on a major trade route between Adelaide and Melbourne. Alan Scot and his trucking business isn't filthy rich for nothin'. And it's just about the only location in Adelaide that has these traits and in addition a location that is sufficiently separated from Adelaide to be autonomous. Adelaide may sprawl far, but it'll never sprawl 400km :lol:

Someone else here mentioned Port Lincoln - can't be bothered checking who, too hungover. Nice place. Probably does not need to expand, as its fishing industry is not constrained by labour so much as it is by availability of fish stocks and commercial fishing licenses. Water availability is a huge problem, which unfortunately does not get the attention it deserves from the state government. It's gotten so bad that some circle advocate desal plants - for their river which is rapidly degrading. Its key strengths, aside from the fishing industry, is the beautiful Boston harbour, which is and will become a further hit with sea changers and tourists. That's probably what Port Lincoln's future growth will be based upon. Retirees, sea changers and tourism, all of whom meet in the sqaures with axes and fight to the bloody death for the last precious drop of salty water.

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#10 Post by bdm » Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:49 pm

Algernon wrote:The greatest opportunity we have for a satellite city with good growth potential is Mount Gambier, current population 25,000. It has good water reserves, an attractive landscape (both natural and man made), to attract tourism and new residents - unlike the drty sheep paddock at Monarto, which was solely reliant on the Murray for water and an utterly forgettable landscape. And importantly, it sits on a major trade route between Adelaide and Melbourne. Alan Scot and his trucking business isn't filthy rich for nothin'. And it's just about the only location in Adelaide that has these traits and in addition a location that is sufficiently separated from Adelaide to be autonomous. Adelaide may sprawl far, but it'll never sprawl 400km :lol:
Mount Gambier was going to be our second city! But, hey, Dunstan got his way and the plans were laid for 'Monarto' instead. And then our economy died due to high taxes and the lifting of tariffs!

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U/C: $15.6m Aquadome Elizabeth Upgrade

#11 Post by crawf » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:33 pm

There is plans for a $15.6m upgrade for the existing Aquadome complex in the northern suburb of Elizabeth. City of Playford will contributed $13.3m, while the Federal Government has allocated $2 million and $300,000 from the State Government towards this project.

Project includes
- New modern waterslide
- New 25 m pool and leisure pool with a beach entry
- Modern gym and fitness centre
- Modern change room facilities
- Spa and steam room
- New crèche facility with indoor and outdoor areas
- 100 space car park
- Existing 50 m pool upgrade
- Range of Environmentally Sustainable Design (ESD) initiatives
- Improved access for aged and disabled persons
Aquadome will be the only indoor swimming complex with a 50m pool in the northern suburbs, construction has believed to have already started.

http://www.playford.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=329
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Re: U/C: $15.6m Aquadome Elizabeth Upgrade

#12 Post by AtD » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:38 pm

crawf wrote:Aquadome will be the only indoor swimming complex in the northern suburbs and construction has believed to have already started.
Um... no it won't. Only Olympic sized one, maybe.

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Re: U/C: $15.6m Aquadome Elizabeth Upgrade

#13 Post by crawf » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:44 pm

From the City of Playford website.
This facility will be the only undercover aquatic facility in the north with a 50 m pool,

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Re: U/C: $15.6m Aquadome Elizabeth Upgrade

#14 Post by AtD » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:47 pm

OK. And by 'will be,' they mean it already is.

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Re: U/C: $15.6m Aquadome Elizabeth Upgrade

#15 Post by crawf » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:04 pm

Theres another thing on the City of Playford website, which is all about the Playford North Development it includes a master plan which highlights a upgrade for the Munno Para train station aswell as a TOD (Transit Oreinted Development).

Plus medium density housing in the new suburb!

http://www.playfordalive.com.au
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