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Re: #PRO: Golden Grove Village revamp

#16 Post by pushbutton » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:16 pm

On the face of it this sounds like quite an interesting development, perhaps even slightly exciting.

If they can make sure it is visually attractive, and go a lot further with the leisure and entertainment facilities than what is described above, then it could actually be really great and become a serious destination for leisure and shopping.

At the moment the existing shopping centre looks a bit dreary and dated, and the original design (whilst quite innovative and kind of nice in an "obviously fake indoors English village" sort of way) was never really going to hold much appeal for more than a few years.

It needs a total redesign internally and externally, but please not just the usual concrete slabs painted grey and white. Let's see a really nice, inviting, exciting, contemporary centre for people from all over Adelaide to enjoy their leisure time.

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Re: #PRO: Golden Grove Village revamp

#17 Post by The Scooter Guy » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:53 pm

Remember when the Fresh Food Market sign was 'animated'? :o
I've seen it since I was only young.
Now, to this date, the animated 'village citizens' have remained still as statues! :(
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Re: #PRO: Golden Grove Village revamp

#18 Post by The Scooter Guy » Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:44 am

Xaragmata wrote:Fitch Retail, with partner Delo Investments, is planning a transport oriented development (TOD) including a 15,000sq m expansion of
Golden Grove Village, plus a $160 million, 200-apartment complex and three-storey carpark for park-and-ride bus commuters.
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Re: #PRO: Golden Grove Village revamp

#19 Post by The Scooter Guy » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:37 pm

A few days ago, I went to GGV and a new Dick Smith is moving in where Mikasa, Frames R Us & Cunningham's were! :D
Cunnos had shut down because of the competition with Cheap As Chips, which was originally a Mitre 10 until the late 1990s.
Also, HomeMart is now becoming a bigger Sports Power!
Red Rooster is now becoming a sort of drive-through bakery...
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Re: #PRO: Golden Grove Village revamp

#20 Post by duke » Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:13 pm

Any details on when construction will start?
I'm hoping it does not flop like the last similar project.

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Re: #PRO: Golden Grove Village revamp

#21 Post by pushbutton » Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:52 pm

Just two further points I would like to add to the debate.

1. I think Golden Grove Village is too close to Tea Tree Plaza / Plus / Modbury Triangle / St Agnes shopping centres to keep expanding much more and become a regional shopping centre. However there is certainly a role for it as a multi-use centre concentrating mainly on leisure and entertainment attractions and I am hoping that is what it will become.

2. The name "Golden Grove Village" was entirely appropriate when it was first built as it was only quite small and did somewhat resemble a village to some degree. However if it is going to grow (and even as it is now really) I think it should adopt a new name. Perhaps something as simple as "Golden Grove Centre" would work (with something like "Leisure. Entertainment. Shopping" underneath the logo to announce what it is focusing on). Since West Lakes shopping centre has become a Westfield again instead of adopting the "West Lakes Centre" name as it was going to, it won't look like it's just copying West Lakes either.

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Re: #PRO: Golden Grove Village revamp

#22 Post by The Scooter Guy » Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:16 pm

pushbutton wrote:I think it should adopt a new name. Perhaps something as simple as "Golden Grove Centre" would work.
Centro would be appropriate to aquire the shopping centre itself...
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#23 Post by jk1237 » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:37 pm

the problem was that just as the Golden Grove housing development started, the former Surrey Downs Shopping Centre renamed itself the Golden Grove Shopping Cntre (very sneaky) meaning that the new shopping centre had to use a different name - Village

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Re: #PRO: Golden Grove Village revamp

#24 Post by pushbutton » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:44 pm

jk1237 wrote:the problem was that just as the Golden Grove housing development started, the former Surrey Downs Shopping Centre renamed itself the Golden Grove Shopping Cntre (very sneaky) meaning that the new shopping centre had to use a different name - Village
I wasn't aware of that. Oh well, there goes that idea. I guess you can't have a Golden Grove Centre and a Golden Grove Shopping Centre!

As for Centro buying Golden Grove Village, I can't see Centro being in a position to buy any new property in the foreseeable future to be honest. They've only just narrowly escaped total collapse, and they can't afford to rebuild the existing centres they already have, some of which desperately need it (Arndale and Toombul, for example).

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Re: #PRO: Golden Grove Village revamp

#25 Post by The Scooter Guy » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:34 am

jk1237 wrote:the problem was that just as the Golden Grove housing development started, the former Surrey Downs Shopping Centre renamed itself the Golden Grove Shopping Cntre (very sneaky) meaning that the new shopping centre had to use a different name - Village
I think that Golden Grove Shopping Centre (Surrey Downs) would be demolished and replaced with somthing similar to Fairview Green (e.g. Surrey Green)...
duke wrote:Any details on when construction will start?
I'm hoping it does not flop like the last similar project.
My prediction: Mid 2011 and completion early to mid 2012, just in time for it's 20th anniversary.
The new extension would include a new Woolworths and it's original location would be an HS (Harris Scarfe).
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Re: #PRO: Golden Grove Village revamp

#26 Post by iTouch » Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:55 pm

I think that Golden Grove Shopping Centre (Surrey Downs) would be demolished and replaced with somthing similar to Fairview Green (e.g. Surrey Green)...
I have a feeling something bigger then Fairview Green for GGSC may happen. For starters the area is much bigger with alot of unused space, not to mention Golden Grove and Grenfell Roads are fairly commercial and the population around it is growing at a fair pace... My Bunyan aches whenever i go past that area which means something.
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Re: #PRO: Golden Grove Village revamp

#27 Post by JamesXander » Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:37 pm

I for one don't really understand how this developement is going to go ahead. The centre has had empty shops in it before, and for quite some time. Demand has to be in place before a centre normally expands, especially such a big expansion like this one. I also know that the general turnover at this centre isn't that great, as the Golden Grove area is some what of a Mortage belt type area, as opposed to the deposible cash of its older Norther Suburb cousins.

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#28 Post by Nort » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:51 am

JamesXander wrote:I for one don't really understand how this developement is going to go ahead. The centre has had empty shops in it before, and for quite some time. Demand has to be in place before a centre normally expands, especially such a big expansion like this one. I also know that the general turnover at this centre isn't that great, as the Golden Grove area is some what of a Mortage belt type area, as opposed to the deposible cash of its older Norther Suburb cousins.
An expansion would probably draw in more people that would otherwise go to a bigger shopping center.

I know that I often drive past Golden Grove Village on my way to Tea Tree Plaza but rarely stop there as I don't see the point when there are many more options at the center just five minutes down the road.

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Re: #PRO: Golden Grove Village revamp

#29 Post by The Scooter Guy » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:58 am

Nort wrote:
JamesXander wrote:I for one don't really understand how this developement is going to go ahead. The centre has had empty shops in it before, and for quite some time. Demand has to be in place before a centre normally expands, especially such a big expansion like this one. I also know that the general turnover at this centre isn't that great, as the Golden Grove area is some what of a Mortage belt type area, as opposed to the deposible cash of its older Norther Suburb cousins.
An expansion would probably draw in more people that would otherwise go to a bigger shopping center.
I know that I often drive past Golden Grove Village on my way to Tea Tree Plaza but rarely stop there as I don't see the point when there are many more options at the center just five minutes down the road.
I remember in 1997-1998, when Tea Tree Plaza had an expansion built which included a Coles, K-Mart & BI-LO.
It even had a Sienna Cafe that I remember going to in the early 2000s, until it became The Reject Shop! :(
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Re: #PRO: Golden Grove Village revamp

#30 Post by JamesXander » Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:33 pm

Nort wrote:
JamesXander wrote:I for one don't really understand how this developement is going to go ahead. The centre has had empty shops in it before, and for quite some time. Demand has to be in place before a centre normally expands, especially such a big expansion like this one. I also know that the general turnover at this centre isn't that great, as the Golden Grove area is some what of a Mortage belt type area, as opposed to the deposible cash of its older Norther Suburb cousins.
An expansion would probably draw in more people that would otherwise go to a bigger shopping center.

I know that I often drive past Golden Grove Village on my way to Tea Tree Plaza but rarely stop there as I don't see the point when there are many more options at the center just five minutes down the road.

Well Parabanks & Tea Tree Plaza are due for upgrades. Ingle Farm and Elizabeth are also big shopping centres in the area ('beth less so)


I just don't see the logic in a large scale developement for this shopping centre.

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