News & Developments: Port Adelaide

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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#901 Post by JAKJ » Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:16 pm

rev wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:10 pm
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:06 pm
The interstate-based developer doesn't give two sh*ts about the Port or SA, they just want to make a profit and without a strong guiding hand by a public-interest authority sh*t is all we will get. Thankfully the woolsheds are still banked for when we get are act together and develop a proper masterplan for the port redevelopment. A shame that a large part of the Ports best natural asset (the river itself) have already been wasted.
Why, do local developers deliver something special? One look at developments in the City and shit is all I see.

And I agree, the best part of the Port has been wasted....on residential development.

Even third world and developing countries can get their act together for urban renewal projects. Too hard for Adelaide though. Lets just build houses.
A local developer won't necessarily deliver something special either under similar conditions, but given there is no government or other authority that has put together an urban renewal master plan and can closely guide the style and mix of the Port urban renewal, the fact that the developer is from interstate just emphasises the disconnect that they will have from achieving anything but a maximum short-term profit outcome.

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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#902 Post by Honey of a City » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:49 pm

JAKJ wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:16 pm
rev wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:10 pm
JAKJ wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:06 pm
The interstate-based developer doesn't give two sh*ts about the Port or SA, they just want to make a profit and without a strong guiding hand by a public-interest authority sh*t is all we will get. Thankfully the woolsheds are still banked for when we get are act together and develop a proper masterplan for the port redevelopment. A shame that a large part of the Ports best natural asset (the river itself) have already been wasted.
Why, do local developers deliver something special? One look at developments in the City and shit is all I see.

And I agree, the best part of the Port has been wasted....on residential development.

Even third world and developing countries can get their act together for urban renewal projects. Too hard for Adelaide though. Lets just build houses.
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A local developer won't necessarily deliver something special either under similar conditions, but given there is no government or other authority that has put together an urban renewal master plan and can closely guide the style and mix of the Port urban renewal, the fact that the developer is from interstate just emphasises the disconnect that they will have from achieving anything but a maximum short-term profit outcome.
There have been multiple master plans for the Port since the 80’s. Sadly pathetic successive micky-mouse governments in SA have criminally maladministered, neglected, or in the case of the current government overtly trashed any respect for the heritage or vision for the potential of this place. Your interstate developer mates are fully complicit in this vandalism and your cult of sub-mediocrity. Welcome to SA the Austerity State.

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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#903 Post by Patrick_27 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:06 pm

Had the City of Adelaide been established in Port Adelaide or very near to, we probably wouldn't have the issues that exist at the port today. If we were to look at places like Melbourne, the CBD and the port are almost co-located in one place or near enough that the CBD can swallow up industrial land as it becomes available. Whereas in Port Adelaide, it's so far apart, the same can't happen; so the best we can really hope for is that residential developments fill the void. With Adelaide's population and a lack of interest from big business establishing themselves here, we couldn't even look at creating another business district especially we already have the likes Mawson Lakes, and our CBD (which in itself isn't doing too well in terms of office occupancy). The best we can hope for is that it becomes another residential village like Mawson Lakes has been since it was created, St Clair and Bowden are becoming.

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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#904 Post by SRW » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:22 am

Honey of a City wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:49 pm
JAKJ wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:16 pm
A local developer won't necessarily deliver something special either under similar conditions, but given there is no government or other authority that has put together an urban renewal master plan and can closely guide the style and mix of the Port urban renewal, the fact that the developer is from interstate just emphasises the disconnect that they will have from achieving anything but a maximum short-term profit outcome.
There have been multiple master plans for the Port since the 80’s. Sadly pathetic successive micky-mouse governments in SA have criminally maladministered, neglected, or in the case of the current government overtly trashed any respect for the heritage or vision for the potential of this place. Your interstate developer mates are fully complicit in this vandalism and your cult of sub-mediocrity. Welcome to SA the Austerity State.
Yes, the most recent master plan is from 2014 but it's not a statutory document 'and has no legal standing in the planning process'. Which makes you wonder what the point of spending money, time and effort bringing together a shared vision of a place if it's then paid no regard.
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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#905 Post by ozisnowman » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:02 pm

It's amazing that this government wants TOD's but remove the no stamp duty incentives. We need places such as CBD, Bowden, Port, Glenelg to boom and go up. Yes they loose a bit of stamp duty but they add to jobs

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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#906 Post by ozisnowman » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:02 pm

It's amazing that this government wants TOD's but remove the no stamp duty incentives. We need places such as CBD, Bowden, Port, Glenelg to boom and go up. Yes they loose a bit of stamp duty but they add to jobs

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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#907 Post by GBEE » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:11 pm

Any updates on the new Globe Hotel by the Ginos group? Interior has been stripped but no action there for a while. Was originally supposed to be finished by now.

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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#908 Post by claybro » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:36 am

Patrick_27 wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:06 pm
Had the City of Adelaide been established in Port Adelaide or very near to, we probably wouldn't have the issues that exist at the port today. If we were to look at places like Melbourne, the CBD and the port are almost co-located in one place or near enough that the CBD can swallow up industrial land as it becomes available. Whereas in Port Adelaide, it's so far apart, the same can't happen; so the best we can really hope for is that residential developments fill the void. With Adelaide's population and a lack of interest from big business establishing themselves here, we couldn't even look at creating another business district especially we already have the likes Mawson Lakes, and our CBD (which in itself isn't doing too well in terms of office occupancy). The best we can hope for is that it becomes another residential village like Mawson Lakes has been since it was created, St Clair and Bowden are becoming.
One of the big mistakes of the last 50 years as far as the port is concerned was the creation of West Lakes Mall. Eventually all the banks, all the financial services, cinema, library etc... all left the port centre for West Lakes. The Port slowly died, and getting those services back is proving difficult as West Lakes provides easy parking and soul less air condition comfort, all the stuff upper middle class bogans love. It will be a long road back for the port, unless the government gets serious about relocation of some public servants. The extra residents will help.

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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#909 Post by Spurdo » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:03 pm

Not quite sure if this belongs here, but I got some pictures a few weeks ago of the construction of the new shipyards.
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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#910 Post by Pistol » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:04 pm

That large shed is big enough to build two ships side by side!

Remember, this is only the shipyard. There is a boatyard to be built alongside.
Approximately $1b worth of infrastructure at Osborne over the next couple of years.

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I went down to have a look a while ago and was blown away by the size of this build!
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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#911 Post by rev » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:03 pm

Port Adelaide Plaza’s $45m expansion seeing strong uptake, traffic
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Port Adelaide’s first major retail investment in four decades is delivering with 98 per cent of the retail area and all six dining spots in the first stage of the $45 million expansion now leased.

Two new restaurants, Boneshaker and Billy Ming, open this Saturday, joining existing food offerings Funk Coffee franchise, Yiros Central and Shanghai Teahouse.

Boneshaker and Billy Ming are part of a restaurant portfolio developed by Adelaide chef Billy Petropoulos, who has opened restaurants in eight countries, including three Boneshakers in China.

While Boneshaker will specialise in burgers, Billy Ming is focused on contemporary Asian food.

The final dining spot in this stage has been claimed for a new Sushi Hiro restaurant, which is set to be opened in December by the group behind Miyabi Sushi and Mugen House Japanese Restaurant & Bar in the city led by chef Razmy Gaffer.

Port Adelaide Plaza development manager Michael Gillett said the response to the redevelopment has been “stronger than we anticipated”.

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Mr Bonett started his investment journey with his 1998 purchase of the Port Canal Shopping Centre, now renamed the Port Adelaide Plaza Centre.

He told The Advertiser last year the “best positive indicators” for Port Adelaide in two decades gave him the confidence to go back to the beginning of his $1 billion-plus portfolio and reinvest in the area.

Port Adelaide is going through a revival, with an increase in housing and infrastructure spending linked to the $90 billion worth of shipbuilding projects coming to the Osborne shipyard and the jobs boom it is likely to create.

Work on the $35 billion Future Frigates build is likely to start in 2021 with the construction of the $50 billion Future Submarines project set to start in 2022-2023.

“Our shopping centre is nestled in the epicentre of that area,” said Mr Bonett, 48, whose wealth is estimated at $1 billion by the BRW Rich List, where he is ranked 90th.

The centre is expected to attract 3.5 million customers a year, spending an annual total exceeding $1 billion by 2021, sustaining 160 full-time jobs on site with more jobs in construction.

At the project’s completion, the shopping centre’s footprint will have grown from 19,000 sqm to just under 30,000sq m.
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Pretty good signs so far. 98% leased. All eateries leased out. But what's with the name, Port Adelaide Plaza Centre? Why not Port/ Port Adelaide Central or Port/ Port Adelaide Plaza?

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