News & Developments: Port Adelaide

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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#901 Post by JAKJ » Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:16 pm

rev wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:10 pm
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The interstate-based developer doesn't give two sh*ts about the Port or SA, they just want to make a profit and without a strong guiding hand by a public-interest authority sh*t is all we will get. Thankfully the woolsheds are still banked for when we get are act together and develop a proper masterplan for the port redevelopment. A shame that a large part of the Ports best natural asset (the river itself) have already been wasted.
Why, do local developers deliver something special? One look at developments in the City and shit is all I see.

And I agree, the best part of the Port has been wasted....on residential development.

Even third world and developing countries can get their act together for urban renewal projects. Too hard for Adelaide though. Lets just build houses.
A local developer won't necessarily deliver something special either under similar conditions, but given there is no government or other authority that has put together an urban renewal master plan and can closely guide the style and mix of the Port urban renewal, the fact that the developer is from interstate just emphasises the disconnect that they will have from achieving anything but a maximum short-term profit outcome.

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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#902 Post by Honey of a City » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:49 pm

JAKJ wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:16 pm
rev wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:10 pm
JAKJ wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:06 pm
The interstate-based developer doesn't give two sh*ts about the Port or SA, they just want to make a profit and without a strong guiding hand by a public-interest authority sh*t is all we will get. Thankfully the woolsheds are still banked for when we get are act together and develop a proper masterplan for the port redevelopment. A shame that a large part of the Ports best natural asset (the river itself) have already been wasted.
Why, do local developers deliver something special? One look at developments in the City and shit is all I see.

And I agree, the best part of the Port has been wasted....on residential development.

Even third world and developing countries can get their act together for urban renewal projects. Too hard for Adelaide though. Lets just build houses.
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A local developer won't necessarily deliver something special either under similar conditions, but given there is no government or other authority that has put together an urban renewal master plan and can closely guide the style and mix of the Port urban renewal, the fact that the developer is from interstate just emphasises the disconnect that they will have from achieving anything but a maximum short-term profit outcome.
There have been multiple master plans for the Port since the 80’s. Sadly pathetic successive micky-mouse governments in SA have criminally maladministered, neglected, or in the case of the current government overtly trashed any respect for the heritage or vision for the potential of this place. Your interstate developer mates are fully complicit in this vandalism and your cult of sub-mediocrity. Welcome to SA the Austerity State.

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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#903 Post by Patrick_27 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:06 pm

Had the City of Adelaide been established in Port Adelaide or very near to, we probably wouldn't have the issues that exist at the port today. If we were to look at places like Melbourne, the CBD and the port are almost co-located in one place or near enough that the CBD can swallow up industrial land as it becomes available. Whereas in Port Adelaide, it's so far apart, the same can't happen; so the best we can really hope for is that residential developments fill the void. With Adelaide's population and a lack of interest from big business establishing themselves here, we couldn't even look at creating another business district especially we already have the likes Mawson Lakes, and our CBD (which in itself isn't doing too well in terms of office occupancy). The best we can hope for is that it becomes another residential village like Mawson Lakes has been since it was created, St Clair and Bowden are becoming.

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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#904 Post by SRW » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:22 am

Honey of a City wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:49 pm
JAKJ wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:16 pm
A local developer won't necessarily deliver something special either under similar conditions, but given there is no government or other authority that has put together an urban renewal master plan and can closely guide the style and mix of the Port urban renewal, the fact that the developer is from interstate just emphasises the disconnect that they will have from achieving anything but a maximum short-term profit outcome.
There have been multiple master plans for the Port since the 80’s. Sadly pathetic successive micky-mouse governments in SA have criminally maladministered, neglected, or in the case of the current government overtly trashed any respect for the heritage or vision for the potential of this place. Your interstate developer mates are fully complicit in this vandalism and your cult of sub-mediocrity. Welcome to SA the Austerity State.
Yes, the most recent master plan is from 2014 but it's not a statutory document 'and has no legal standing in the planning process'. Which makes you wonder what the point of spending money, time and effort bringing together a shared vision of a place if it's then paid no regard.
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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#905 Post by ozisnowman » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:02 pm

It's amazing that this government wants TOD's but remove the no stamp duty incentives. We need places such as CBD, Bowden, Port, Glenelg to boom and go up. Yes they loose a bit of stamp duty but they add to jobs

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Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide

#906 Post by ozisnowman » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:02 pm

It's amazing that this government wants TOD's but remove the no stamp duty incentives. We need places such as CBD, Bowden, Port, Glenelg to boom and go up. Yes they loose a bit of stamp duty but they add to jobs

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