[REJ] 79 Port Road, Thebarton | 37m x 2 & 31m| 10 & 2 x 8 Levels

All high-rise, low-rise and street developments in areas other than the CBD and North Adelaide. Includes Port Adelaide and Glenelg.
Message
Author
crawf
Donating Member
Donating Member
Posts: 5377
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:49 pm
Location: Adelaide
Has thanked: 165 times
Been thanked: 311 times

[REJ] Re: 79 Port Road, Thebarton | 37m x 2 & 31m| 10 & 2 x 8 Leve

#46 Post by crawf » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:40 am

Done a quick job to put things in a visual perspective. As you can see the Coca Cola site is massive, and has the potential to be transformed into a mix of residential apartments, commercial space and retail (e.g. supermarket). Endless possibilities which could kick start a huge amount of investment in the inner-west, similar to what's happened with Bowden Village.

Some potential big changes for Thebarton over the next 5 years...

Coca Cola Amatil
23-27 Walsh Street
79 Port Road (ES Wigg & Son)


Image
Last edited by crawf on Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:46 am, edited 4 times in total.

User avatar
Nathan
Super Size Scraper Poster!
Posts: 2975
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:09 pm
Location: Bowden
Has thanked: 175 times
Been thanked: 523 times
Contact:

[REJ] Re: 79 Port Road, Thebarton | 37m x 2 & 31m| 10 & 2 x 8 Leve

#47 Post by Nathan » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:55 am

crawf wrote:Done a quick job to put things in a visual perspective. As you can see the Coca Cola site is massive, and has the potential to be transformed into a mix of residential apartments, commercial space and retail (e.g. supermarket). Endless possibilities which could kick start a huge amount of investment in the inner-west.

Some potential big changes for Thebarton over the next 5 years...
All the open air carpark on the south side of Light Terrace is Coke's as well (It's just that building in the middle of the carpark that isn't theirs).

crawf
Donating Member
Donating Member
Posts: 5377
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:49 pm
Location: Adelaide
Has thanked: 165 times
Been thanked: 311 times

[REJ] Re: 79 Port Road, Thebarton | 37m x 2 & 31m| 10 & 2 x 8 Leve

#48 Post by crawf » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:16 am

Nathan wrote:
crawf wrote:Done a quick job to put things in a visual perspective. As you can see the Coca Cola site is massive, and has the potential to be transformed into a mix of residential apartments, commercial space and retail (e.g. supermarket). Endless possibilities which could kick start a huge amount of investment in the inner-west.

Some potential big changes for Thebarton over the next 5 years...
All the open air carpark on the south side of Light Terrace is Coke's as well (It's just that building in the middle of the carpark that isn't theirs).
Thanks Nathan, I've updated the photo.

User avatar
rev
Super Size Scraper Poster!
Posts: 3543
Joined: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:14 pm
Has thanked: 165 times
Been thanked: 288 times

[REJ] Re: 79 Port Road, Thebarton | 37m x 2 & 31m| 10 & 2 x 8 Leve

#49 Post by rev » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:44 pm

how good is he wrote:Don't understand how Coke spent some $54m in the past few years upgrading this site...a lot must have changed since then? Possibly if its plant it could be dismantled and re-used somewhere else.
Coke also let go of some middle management people several years ago.
The scaling down of operations isn't exactly a big surprise.

Sales haven't improved. There's no room for expansion at Thebarton. It's cheaper to move manufacturing/bottling interstate then keep operating here.
We might not like it because of job losses and the knock on effect to the economy, but it's the way things work. Reading comments on AdelaideNow and Facebook, blaming the government, and then later in the day the opposition jumping on the "blame the government" bandwagon, wow, how dumb.
Is Steven Marshall going to blame the state government for not doing anything to keep Caroma's factory open here as well?
Why isn't he critical of his party's federal colleagues who didn't keep helping Holden, Ford and Toyota? Wasn't he also critical that Labor spent tens of millions helping Holden(and previously Mitsubishi)?

No wonder our state is in the condition it's in.

User avatar
Nathan
Super Size Scraper Poster!
Posts: 2975
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:09 pm
Location: Bowden
Has thanked: 175 times
Been thanked: 523 times
Contact:

[REJ] Re: 79 Port Road, Thebarton | 37m x 2 & 31m| 10 & 2 x 8 Leve

#50 Post by Nathan » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:13 pm

rev wrote:Is Steven Marshall going to blame the state government for not doing anything to keep Caroma's factory open here as well?
I've seen plenty of angst on Caroma today, despite it having been announced way back in 2014 and there only being a small handful of people left. I think I've read enough "last one out, turn out the lights, if they're not already out" quips to last me a few lifetimes.

People, and media, seem to love the negative narrative. Meanwhile, news of Bickfords expanding is mostly buried, and the expansion of Big River Pork (140 jobs) is barely given a foot note.

Spurdo
High Rise Poster!
Posts: 176
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:20 pm
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 53 times

[REJ] Re: 79 Port Road, Thebarton | 37m x 2 & 31m| 10 & 2 x 8 Leve

#51 Post by Spurdo » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:21 pm

Pfizer also announced that they will be closing their Thebarton plant in 2021 even after the government gave them several million dollars to upgrade it. However, rumour is that Rheinmetall are looking at using at least part of the Holden factory as their Asia-Pacific factory and headquarters.

User avatar
Vee
Legendary Member!
Posts: 1105
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:26 pm
Location: Eastern Suburbs
Has thanked: 144 times
Been thanked: 39 times

[REJ] Re: 79 Port Road, Thebarton | 37m x 2 & 31m| 10 & 2 x 8 Leve

#52 Post by Vee » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:20 am

Thanks, Crawf.
Huge site. Your map shows what a significant site this is and catalyst for renewal, redevelopment.

Good to see cordial manufacturer Bickfords, a longstanding family-owned, iconic South Aussie business, is to undergo a $10million expansion and is open to offering jobs to Coca-Cola workers.
http://www.bickfords.net/our-history

So disappointing to see the Murdoch daily crusade of negativity, gloom and doom on 'turning out the lights', 'SA on the edge of the abyss'.

Allkai
High Rise Poster!
Posts: 277
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:59 pm
Has thanked: 35 times
Been thanked: 30 times

[REJ] Re: 79 Port Road, Thebarton | 37m x 2 & 31m| 10 & 2 x 8 Leve

#53 Post by Allkai » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:28 am

Vee wrote: Good to see cordial manufacturer Bickfords, a longstanding family-owned, iconic South Aussie business, is to undergo a $10million expansion and is open to offering jobs to Coca-Cola workers.
http://www.bickfords.net/our-history

So disappointing to see the Murdoch daily crusade of negativity, gloom and doom on 'turning out the lights', 'SA on the edge of the abyss'.
OT, but I was blown away recently by the Beerenberg expansion, not having visited there for a few years.

Torrens_5022
High Rise Poster!
Posts: 228
Joined: Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:34 am
Been thanked: 10 times

[REJ] Re: 79 Port Road, Thebarton | 37m x 2 & 31m| 10 & 2 x 8 Leve

#54 Post by Torrens_5022 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:44 pm

Whats the height limit on the coke site? would be nice to see a nice sized apartment building in it's place

User avatar
Llessur2002
Legendary Member!
Posts: 1316
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:59 pm
Location: West Croydon
Has thanked: 363 times
Been thanked: 567 times

[REJ] Re: 79 Port Road, Thebarton | 37m x 2 & 31m| 10 & 2 x 8 Leve

#55 Post by Llessur2002 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:03 pm

Torrens_5022 wrote:Whats the height limit on the coke site? would be nice to see a nice sized apartment building in it's place
I presume not very high...

Image

User avatar
Llessur2002
Legendary Member!
Posts: 1316
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:59 pm
Location: West Croydon
Has thanked: 363 times
Been thanked: 567 times

[REJ] Re: 79 Port Road, Thebarton | 37m x 2 & 31m| 10 & 2 x 8 Leve

#56 Post by Llessur2002 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:13 pm

It might not have been quite right for the old RAH site but I'd officially like to re-float this idea.

Image

User avatar
Nathan
Super Size Scraper Poster!
Posts: 2975
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:09 pm
Location: Bowden
Has thanked: 175 times
Been thanked: 523 times
Contact:

[REJ] Re: 79 Port Road, Thebarton | 37m x 2 & 31m| 10 & 2 x 8 Leve

#57 Post by Nathan » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:19 pm

Llessur2002 wrote:It might not have been quite right for the old RAH site but I'd officially like to re-float this idea.
Mount Thebarton!

User avatar
Llessur2002
Legendary Member!
Posts: 1316
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:59 pm
Location: West Croydon
Has thanked: 363 times
Been thanked: 567 times

[REJ] Re: 79 Port Road, Thebarton | 37m x 2 & 31m| 10 & 2 x 8 Levels

#58 Post by Llessur2002 » Tue May 01, 2018 1:50 pm

This is a shame:
12-storey tower ‘too tall’ for Thebarton, State Government panel says.

FRESH plans for a 12-storey tower in Thebarton have been knocked back, casting doubt over the future of the project.

The State Commission Assessment Panel last week refused PRD Project Management’s bid to redevelop Port Rd’s former E.S. Wigg and Son’s envelope factory with 124 apartments, 28 townhouses and 231 carparks.

Image

Minutes from the panel’s meeting, which was held behind closed doors, showed it rejected the proposal on the basis it “substantially exceeded” the area’s eight-storey limit and would conflict with the adjacent State Heritage-Listed Southwark Hotel.

Long distances to lifts and communal open space would also result in “poor residential amenity”, according to the minutes outlining the panel’s decision.

The decision to refuse an application is somewhat of a rare occurrence for the State Government’s planning authority, with The Advertiser last year reporting it had approved more than 98 per cent of all applications since 2012.

The ruling is the latest hurdle for the project, which was to be the first high-rise apartment development to capitalise on the government’s move in 2013 to raise building height limits on Port Rd.

The developer last year won approval for a 10-storey development at the 7000sq m former envelope factory site.

The $120 million complex was to include a microbrewery and cafe, as well as a central plaza and garden for residents.

But that proposal never eventuated because of “constraints … related to the viability of an underground carpark,” according to State Planning Commission documents.

Revised plans for the site — which did not include an updated dollar figure — were put to the panel in December, but a decision was deferred to give the developer time to tweak the design.

A Planning Department report last week noted the request had largely been ignored, however the project should still be approved because its “shortcomings” did not “fatally outweigh” the benefits of what was an “acceptable” development.

Planning firm Intro, which prepared the application on behalf of PRD Project Management, directed T he Advertiser’s inquiries to their client, who are yet to respond.
From: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenger ... 921a0f2a8c

User avatar
wilkiebarkid
Donating Member
Donating Member
Posts: 474
Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:19 am
Location: Adelaide
Has thanked: 36 times
Been thanked: 106 times

[REJ] Re: 79 Port Road, Thebarton | 37m x 2 & 31m| 10 & 2 x 8 Levels

#59 Post by wilkiebarkid » Tue May 01, 2018 2:15 pm

This is exactly what SHOULD be permitted on a very wide arterial road with a tram line right outside!

Embarrassing decision.

User avatar
metro
Legendary Member!
Posts: 950
Joined: Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:11 pm
Location: Adelaide
Has thanked: 362 times
Been thanked: 48 times

[REJ] Re: 79 Port Road, Thebarton | 37m x 2 & 31m| 10 & 2 x 8 Levels

#60 Post by metro » Tue May 01, 2018 2:37 pm

6-8 floors is fine for Aldinga apparently, but 12 floors is 'too tall' for the middle of the city? :sly:

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests