250 homes to be demolished for 650 new ones

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#1 Post by I Follow PAFC » Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:58 pm

250 homes to be demolished for 650 new ones
SEE THE VIDEO More than 250 Housing SA homes in Oaklands Park will be demolished and replaced with 650 properties – some up to four storeys high – in a $135 million plan to transform the suburb.

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#2 Post by Alyx » Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:12 pm

The Advertiser wrote:More than 650 houses will be built at Oaklands Park as part of a $135 million “once-in-a-generation” opportunity to transform the suburb.

The State Government has released images of the Oaklands Green project, in which more than 250 rundown Housing SA properties will be demolished and replaced.

A further 400 homes – some in buildings up to four storeys high – will also be built in the 16ha area bounded by Warradale Barracks, Barry Rd, Bombay St and Doreen St.

Public infrastructure will be improved, including roads and footpaths, and more green spaces and walking trails created.

The project is a partnership between the government, Hou­s­ing Renewal Australia Oaklands Park and community ser­vice provider Junction Aust­ralia. Construction is set to start in early 2021 with the first home completed late that year.
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#3 Post by SRW » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:53 pm

So will at least 250 of the 650 new homes remain social housing? I think these types of renewals are a great opportunity, but let's not forget SA has the second-highest number of people in the country waiting for housing -- in absolute terms too, not relative! The government (mostly the Commonwealth since they've got all the coin) needs to be building much more.
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#4 Post by Eurostar » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:01 am

More ticky tacky shoeboxes with thin walls :roll:

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#5 Post by Patrick_27 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:24 pm

So let's bulldoze 250 run down homes, that if renovated might actually have some character in favour of building 650 shit looking shoeboxes that in twenty years will look terrible. Great idea.

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#6 Post by OlympusAnt » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:24 pm

more dogboxes with no eaves :wallbash:
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#7 Post by SouthAussie94 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:32 pm

This is no different to what the Housing Trust have been doing for the past 10 years or so. Mitchell Park, Plympton Park, Morphettville, Woodville West/Park/Gardens and now Oaklands Park.
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#8 Post by PeFe » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:28 am

Maybe the title of this thread should be changed to (PRO) Oaklands Green Development

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#9 Post by TorrensSA » Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:55 am

Would be nice if Housing SA finished projects before starting more. There's a massive block of land in Henley Beach South, opposite Henley High that used to be HSA units, which got demolished and is now vacant with a temporary fence, it's been vacant for a few years now. It would be worth a lot of money.

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#10 Post by SBD » Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:45 pm

TorrensSA wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:55 am
Would be nice if Housing SA finished projects before starting more. There's a massive block of land in Henley Beach South, opposite Henley High that used to be HSA units, which got demolished and is now vacant with a temporary fence, it's been vacant for a few years now. It would be worth a lot of money.
They are also working through Smithfield Plains and Davoren Park renovating and replacing tired housing trust houses.

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#11 Post by SouthAussie94 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:41 pm

SBD wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:45 pm
TorrensSA wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:55 am
Would be nice if Housing SA finished projects before starting more. There's a massive block of land in Henley Beach South, opposite Henley High that used to be HSA units, which got demolished and is now vacant with a temporary fence, it's been vacant for a few years now. It would be worth a lot of money.
They are also working through Smithfield Plains and Davoren Park renovating and replacing tired housing trust houses.
You could name virtually any suburb of Adelaide and Housing SA would be doing some level of work there. Davoren Park, Woodville Gardens, Findon, Dover Gardens, Morphettville, Edwardstown and Mount Barker are a few which come to mind with large-ish projects underway.

With Covid, I'd fully expect the amount of redevelopment carried out by them to increase substantially. Oaklands Park will be the first of many.
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#12 Post by claybro » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:52 am

Patrick_27 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:24 pm
So let's bulldoze 250 run down homes, that if renovated might actually have some character in favour of building 650 shit looking shoeboxes that in twenty years will look terrible. Great idea.
These developments all depend on the quality of the landscaping and public shared treatments. If the housing departments just bungs these up, scatters a few tiny trees and grass plants around, it will look terrible within no time. It always seems landscaping is an afterthought with designing these projects, but it is such a critical component. There is unfortunately also a distinct tendency in SA for people not to even look after what is right outside their own front gate. If this starts off with the usual lazy landscape design, and a begrudging twice a year leaf blow and street sweep by the council...this WILL look terrible-and hot. If however the relevant department within state government came to an arrangement for funding councils specifically to maintain these areas with a high proportion of low income/public housing, it would mean a better outcome all round. Areas with a high visibility of council workers on a regular basis would reduce street crime/ drug dealing/ prostitution, petty property damage and theft. We are having an explosion of unemployment-especially young and those with lower education. It is the perfect time to put these people into proper paid work which will also increase pride in the community.

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#13 Post by Nort » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:09 pm

claybro wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:52 am
Patrick_27 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:24 pm
So let's bulldoze 250 run down homes, that if renovated might actually have some character in favour of building 650 shit looking shoeboxes that in twenty years will look terrible. Great idea.
These developments all depend on the quality of the landscaping and public shared treatments. If the housing departments just bungs these up, scatters a few tiny trees and grass plants around, it will look terrible within no time. It always seems landscaping is an afterthought with designing these projects, but it is such a critical component. There is unfortunately also a distinct tendency in SA for people not to even look after what is right outside their own front gate. If this starts off with the usual lazy landscape design, and a begrudging twice a year leaf blow and street sweep by the council...this WILL look terrible-and hot. If however the relevant department within state government came to an arrangement for funding councils specifically to maintain these areas with a high proportion of low income/public housing, it would mean a better outcome all round. Areas with a high visibility of council workers on a regular basis would reduce street crime/ drug dealing/ prostitution, petty property damage and theft. We are having an explosion of unemployment-especially young and those with lower education. It is the perfect time to put these people into proper paid work which will also increase pride in the community.
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#14 Post by NTRabbit » Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:08 am

Nort wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:09 pm
claybro wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:52 am
Patrick_27 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:24 pm
So let's bulldoze 250 run down homes, that if renovated might actually have some character in favour of building 650 shit looking shoeboxes that in twenty years will look terrible. Great idea.
These developments all depend on the quality of the landscaping and public shared treatments. If the housing departments just bungs these up, scatters a few tiny trees and grass plants around, it will look terrible within no time. It always seems landscaping is an afterthought with designing these projects, but it is such a critical component. There is unfortunately also a distinct tendency in SA for people not to even look after what is right outside their own front gate. If this starts off with the usual lazy landscape design, and a begrudging twice a year leaf blow and street sweep by the council...this WILL look terrible-and hot. If however the relevant department within state government came to an arrangement for funding councils specifically to maintain these areas with a high proportion of low income/public housing, it would mean a better outcome all round. Areas with a high visibility of council workers on a regular basis would reduce street crime/ drug dealing/ prostitution, petty property damage and theft. We are having an explosion of unemployment-especially young and those with lower education. It is the perfect time to put these people into proper paid work which will also increase pride in the community.
Interesting thing I learned the other day.

Most people would recognise the image of Los Angeles being full of palm trees. Many of them were planted as part of depression-era jobs programs.
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Re: 250 homes to be demolished for 650 new ones

#15 Post by ChillyPhilly » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:48 am

SA urgently needs more social housing.

The key to ensuring care and upkeep for social housing units is to build and maintain place value.

This will ensure people view their home as a place they want to be and respect, rather than merely a space where they sleep.

re: the New Deal, it's buried under the carpet thanks to rampant capitalism and conservatism in power all over the world.
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