News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

[PeFe]

As previously stated by the SA government, additional security and passenger checks around the stations next to Salisbury after the installation of ticket gates.
From The Advertiser

Crackdown on northern train fare evaders
SECURITY has been beefed up at three northern train stations in a clampdown on fare evasion.



SECURITY has been beefed up at three northern train stations in a crackdown on fare evasion.
CCTV cameras, security guards and new ticket validation gates similar to those at Adelaide Railway Station are part of the upgrade.
The gates were installed at Salisbury station this month, while security guards began patrolling at the two stations either side on the Gawler line — Nurlutta and Chidda.
Passengers will now be forced to validate travel cards to enter and leave the Salisbury platform.
Security patrols and ticketing officers at surrounding railway stations have been instructed to stop passengers who try to avoid the ticket gates at the Salisbury interchange.
The push to install the gates comes after 2200 people were caught evading fares on the Gawler line in the 2015/16 financial year.

Full article : http://www.news.com.au/national/south-a ... 26b2de35af

Also moderators , a suggestion......merging the Upgrade and Electrification of the Adelaide Rail Network thread with the Trains : News and Discussion thread.
I understand why the "electrification issue" at one stage seem to demand another thread but that process is stalled, and only moves ahead in a piecemeal fashion now.
Only one thread dealing with trains (public transport) is really needed now, focusing all discussion in one place.
And yes of course the "Port Dock Spur Line" thread should be merged as well.

[Brucetiki]

Alternatively, instead of the endless urban sprawl, put some major effort into upgrading employment, services and infrastructure in Murray Bridge. Re start the Murray Bridge service, and have it stop at Mount Barker, and maybe Belair to connect to suburban trains. MT Barker could easily double in population, and Murray Bridge realistically has no restriction on development land available. Just a thought. Similar to how Ballarat had boomed since connection to Melbourne via fast rail.

I like your thinking. One way for the Government to support this idea would be to subsidize the freight for manufacturing companies that shift to regional areas. With abundant land available at cheaper prices, it would be worthwhile for many companies to move to regional areas, if they can get their product to market at reasonable cost. These businesses would be a catalyst for growth - workers have families, who need services. Those service providers have families, who need more services, etc. and we could end up with regional centres with 10,000 population every 100km or so, which would make regional passenger transport more viable.

Ballarat is still over an hour away by V/Line, that's Clare distance. Murray Bridge might as well be another suburb of Adelaide

Channel 10 already considers Murray Bridge an outer suburb for it's weather forecasts!

[Brucetiki]

Although I think this is a great idea, will you still need to validate your ticket once you get on the train like you do at ARS?

Yes

Hopefully one day we'll see validators on all platforms and do away with tapping on on the train itself altogether (ala what happens interstate).

[Norman]

Although I think this is a great idea, will you still need to validate your ticket once you get on the train like you do at ARS?

Yes

Hopefully one day we'll see validators on all platforms and do away with tapping on on the train itself altogether (ala what happens interstate).

Unfortunately the remoteness and lack of density around of most of the stations (especially Kudla and Outer Harbor) will mean that this is unlikely. Given that we don't have a tap on-tap off system, it is even less likely to be implemented here due to cost constraints.

I do hope though that they will gradually install more of these barriers at the more busy stations such as Elizabeth, Woodville and Oaklands over time to reduce fare evasion and make the system safer overall. Hopefully some of these stations will have higher density housing and shops built around these major interchanges to increase usage and therefore make these machines more viable.

[Waewick]

for anyone who travels through the hindmarsh/Bowden area

be prepared for some delays due to work on the rail corridor between Queen Street and Chief Street.

[Kasey771]

Electronic signs up yesterday at Mawson Interchange flagging parking restrictions commencing 29 Sep 17 ahead of "Mawson Interchange upgrade project."

A snappy Google gives this: but unfortunately no pictures
http://lrmcon.com/project/mawson-lakes- ... e-upgrade/

[mawsonguy]

The State Government and City of Salisbury are joining forces on a $2.4m upgrade of pedestrian and cycling access to the Mawson Interchange and Elder Smith Road bridge.

The works include:

Installing a shared use path, ramp and stairs on the southern side of the Elder Smith Road bridge to:

• Improve pedestrian and cycling access from the western side of the rail corridor via Augustine Street
• Connect to the Mawson Interchange and the City of Salisbury’s Green Trails.
• Widening of the shared use path on the Elder Smith Road Bridge to better cater for pedestrians and cyclists and improve access to the Interchange.

The City of Salisbury will contribute $1.6m to the project with $800 000 from the State Government’s Better Access to Public Transport program.

Works are expected to start in early October and be completed by early 2018, weather permitting.

https://www.premier.sa.gov.au/index.php ... nterchange

The original plan was to extend the Dry Creek Linear Bike Trail under the railway line utilising the existing culvert. That was scotched by DPTI quoting "safety concerns". In any event the track would have been under water for a large part of the year as the culvert is too low. However, funds had been allocated and promises made so this is now being built although anybody who understands how bicycling works know no bicyclists will use it. Which is just as well as the design is made for some serious bike\pedestrian conflict with resultant injuries.

[Kasey771]

The State Government and City of Salisbury are joining forces on a $2.4m upgrade of pedestrian and cycling access to the Mawson Interchange and Elder Smith Road bridge.

The works include:

Installing a shared use path, ramp and stairs on the southern side of the Elder Smith Road bridge to:

• Improve pedestrian and cycling access from the western side of the rail corridor via Augustine Street
• Connect to the Mawson Interchange and the City of Salisbury’s Green Trails.
• Widening of the shared use path on the Elder Smith Road Bridge to better cater for pedestrians and cyclists and improve access to the Interchange.

The City of Salisbury will contribute $1.6m to the project with $800 000 from the State Government’s Better Access to Public Transport program.

Works are expected to start in early October and be completed by early 2018, weather permitting.

https://www.premier.sa.gov.au/index.php ... nterchange

The original plan was to extend the Dry Creek Linear Bike Trail under the railway line utilising the existing culvert. That was scotched by DPTI quoting "safety concerns". In any event the track would have been under water for a large part of the year as the culvert is too low. However, funds had been allocated and promises made so this is now being built although anybody who understands how bicycling works know no bicyclists will use it. Which is just as well as the design is made for some serious bike\pedestrian conflict with resultant injuries.

City of Salisbury think they're helping cyclists. They like to big up how many kilometres of bike paths they have. Unfortunately they like many in the various levels of government only see cycling as a recreation activity so the routes they choose to upgrade are like the meandering Dry Creek Linear park shared pedestrian bike way which doesn't actually go anywhere. Some people use bicycles for commuting and actually want to go places like work on their bike. They will continue to use roads, mixing with traffic and using Adelaide's spectacular there then suddenly not there bike lanes.

[mawsonguy]

The Dry Creek Linear bike path links up with the Little Para Linear bike path so, from my house in Mawson Lakes I could ride to Krispy Kreme or Parabanks, albeit by a circuitous (but safe) route. Eventually both linear paths will link up with the bike path along the Northern Connector and the Northern Expressway. Unfortunately, thoat path starts and stops in the middle of nowhere. DPTI is a far worse offender than the Salisbury Council.

[SBD]

The Dry Creek Linear bike path links up with the Little Para Linear bike path so, from my house in Mawson Lakes I could ride to Krispy Kreme or Parabanks, albeit by a circuitous (but safe) route. Eventually both linear paths will link up with the bike path along the Northern Connector and the Northern Expressway. Unfortunately, that path starts and stops in the middle of nowhere. DPTI is a far worse offender than the Salisbury Council.

DPTI have assured us several times that there will be a safe crossing of Port Wakefield provided, so that the Northern Connector path joins on to the Stuart O'Grady Bikeway along the Northern Expressway. I have seen several variations on the broad plan for this, none of which really made sense, so we may have to wait and see.

The north end of the Stuart O'Grady path has bike lanes (not a path though) over the bridge across Gawler Bypass, then can connect into the Gawler River paths.

Assuming the southern end of the northern connector path links into a useful network south of Salisbury Highway, it will actually make the Stuart O'Grady path useful for people in Gawler, Munno Para West, Andrews Farm, Davoren Park, Penfield (especially if Womma Road is improved too). Cycling from that area to Port Adelaide, Wingfield etc is "interesting" at present.

[OlympusAnt]

The crossing at Park Terrace is finally gone! Now only a few other shockers to remove.

[Torrens_5022]

There's a lot more level crossings that need to go:
Oaklands Station, Brighton Rd, Park Tce Salisbury, Torrens Road Ovingham, Marion and Cross Rds Plympton, Emerson, Morphett Rd Morphettville, Kings Road Parafield. Womma Rd, Curtis Rd etc

[OlympusAnt]

Brighton Road at Hove is a shocker. It causes a bottleneck a long way down the road.

[omada]

To those who complain about level crossings, the problem is solved if you use the train. You can't expect taxpayers to keep footing the bill for grade separation.

[monotonehell]

To those who complain about level crossings, the problem is solved if you use the train. You can't expect taxpayers to keep footing the bill for grade separation.

But... but... the train is going perpendicular to their needs!