U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

#2896 Post by metro » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:47 pm

It's pretty silly how the gates are only used when there are staff at the station to manually check tickets after people have gone through, they do that in the city regularly and it's really quite unusual, they have something like 40 Adelaide Metro people holding ticket readers and 2 security/SAPOL next to them to check every persons ticket, then everyone they check goes through the gates anyway :lol:

I'm thinking it might have been a better, and easier to instead roll out platform ticket readers at station entrances like at un-gated stations in other cities. Instead of having useless ticket gates at stations they should phase out the ticket vending machines and card readers inside the trains and instead do it at stations like every other rail system.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

#2897 Post by Eurostar » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:58 am

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This morning due to a police incident at Salisbury, full Gawler Line will not be running.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

#2898 Post by I Follow PAFC » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:22 am

#UPDATE: #Gawler line trains are now resuming. Customers will experience some residual delays as services return to normal @SAPoliceNews
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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

#2899 Post by PeFe » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:13 am

Electronic ticket gates have opened at the Noarlunga Centre train station.
From The Advertiser
Ticket gates have arrived at Noarlunga Centre railway station — a year later than expected

ELECTRONIC ticket gates have started operating at the station following 12 months of delays caused by design issues and almost four years after money for them was promised.

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New ticket gates at the Noarlunga Centre railway station. Source: DPTISource:Supplied

NEW ticket gates have finally opened at Noarlunga Centre railway station — a year after their expected arrival time.
The electronic gates — which are part of a $2.1 million bid to upgrade security at Noarlunga and Salisbury stations — opened on Wednesday following 12 months of delays caused by design issues.
As happens at Adelaide railway station, commuters are supposed to validate their ticket or Metrocard to enter the station.
Transport minister Stephen Mullighan said the government took a “zero tolerance” stance on fare evaders.
“Fare evasion costs our public transport network millions of dollars every year — money which could be reinvested in providing better public transport services for everyone,” Mr Mullighan said.
“The Salisbury and Noarlunga railway stations are two of the busiest on the Adelaide Metro network, which is why we’ve focused these security upgrades on these stations.”

Full article : http://www.news.com.au/national/south-a ... dec141e2b1

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

#2900 Post by Patrick_27 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:56 pm

PeFe wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:13 am
Electronic ticket gates have opened at the Noarlunga Centre train station.
From The Advertiser
Ticket gates have arrived at Noarlunga Centre railway station — a year later than expected

ELECTRONIC ticket gates have started operating at the station following 12 months of delays caused by design issues and almost four years after money for them was promised.

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New ticket gates at the Noarlunga Centre railway station. Source: DPTISource:Supplied

NEW ticket gates have finally opened at Noarlunga Centre railway station — a year after their expected arrival time.
The electronic gates — which are part of a $2.1 million bid to upgrade security at Noarlunga and Salisbury stations — opened on Wednesday following 12 months of delays caused by design issues.
As happens at Adelaide railway station, commuters are supposed to validate their ticket or Metrocard to enter the station.
Transport minister Stephen Mullighan said the government took a “zero tolerance” stance on fare evaders.
“Fare evasion costs our public transport network millions of dollars every year — money which could be reinvested in providing better public transport services for everyone,” Mr Mullighan said.
“The Salisbury and Noarlunga railway stations are two of the busiest on the Adelaide Metro network, which is why we’ve focused these security upgrades on these stations.”

Full article : http://www.news.com.au/national/south-a ... dec141e2b1
I feel we should be adopting a system similar to that used in Melbourne and Sydney, ticket tap-on at the entrance of every station so that inspectors can book people at the station if they don't have a valid ticket. The only thing is that this would require the removal of the single-trip paper tickets which if metro cards become free this should be much of an issue for tourists and the like.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

#2901 Post by Nort » Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:10 pm

Patrick_27 wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:56 pm
PeFe wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:13 am
Electronic ticket gates have opened at the Noarlunga Centre train station.
From The Advertiser
Ticket gates have arrived at Noarlunga Centre railway station — a year later than expected

ELECTRONIC ticket gates have started operating at the station following 12 months of delays caused by design issues and almost four years after money for them was promised.

Image
New ticket gates at the Noarlunga Centre railway station. Source: DPTISource:Supplied

NEW ticket gates have finally opened at Noarlunga Centre railway station — a year after their expected arrival time.
The electronic gates — which are part of a $2.1 million bid to upgrade security at Noarlunga and Salisbury stations — opened on Wednesday following 12 months of delays caused by design issues.
As happens at Adelaide railway station, commuters are supposed to validate their ticket or Metrocard to enter the station.
Transport minister Stephen Mullighan said the government took a “zero tolerance” stance on fare evaders.
“Fare evasion costs our public transport network millions of dollars every year — money which could be reinvested in providing better public transport services for everyone,” Mr Mullighan said.
“The Salisbury and Noarlunga railway stations are two of the busiest on the Adelaide Metro network, which is why we’ve focused these security upgrades on these stations.”

Full article : http://www.news.com.au/national/south-a ... dec141e2b1
I feel we should be adopting a system similar to that used in Melbourne and Sydney, ticket tap-on at the entrance of every station so that inspectors can book people at the station if they don't have a valid ticket. The only thing is that this would require the removal of the single-trip paper tickets which if metro cards become free this should be much of an issue for tourists and the like.
Would also require all stations to have the ability to buy tickets or make the network a lot harder to use for casual users.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

#2902 Post by PeFe » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:21 pm

Nort wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:10 pm

Would also require all stations to have the ability to buy tickets or make the network a lot harder to use for casual users.
Agree. Providing TVM's at every station is way too expensive for a city like Adelaide.
However I do have some suggestions to cut down on fare evasion - the obvious one , more compliance checks on heavily patronized routes ie the Glenelg tram, Gawler line train on pension days and certainly on the O-Bahn when all door boarding commences.

Also abolish single use tickets for seniors and concession card holders, card only.
Then bus drivers would not have to ask for proof of concession.....this is done by the issuing authority ie if you are on the dole the you can access the concession card for 3 months and if you are still unemployed then the concession is extended.
This is how NSW works it, no concession fares available at the TVM (but of course you are able to add money to your Opal concession card)
Adelaide would need to add more TVM's that accept cash at major train/O-Bahn stations etc to make the system more accessible.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

#2903 Post by claybro » Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:37 pm

PeFe wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:21 pm
Agree. Providing TVM's at every station is way too expensive for a city like Adelaide.
However I do have some suggestions to cut down on fare evasion - the obvious one , more compliance checks on heavily patronized routes ie the Glenelg tram, Gawler line train on pension days and certainly on the O-Bahn when all door boarding commences.
Every station in Perth has a ticket machine.-many have permanent security (probably warranted as there is a real feral element here) Perth train system is probably more a similar size of Adelaide than Melbourne or Sydney, so it is not impossible. I think the problem with Adelaide as always is the system needs culling of smaller stations. They are derelict, unsafe, and generally un monitored. Once they are removed, more effort can be made in upgrading and policing the stations that are left.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

#2904 Post by [Shuz] » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:34 pm

Couple of mentions over at Railpage that Salisbury electrification has (once again) now going to go all the way to Gawler and a second batch of EMUs will be ordered.

Expect an election announcement of course.
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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

#2905 Post by Patrick_27 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:39 am

[Shuz] wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:34 pm
Couple of mentions over at Railpage that Salisbury electrification has (once again) now going to go all the way to Gawler and a second batch of EMUs will be ordered.

Expect an election announcement of course.
Had better actually do it this time... Will this include electrification of Outer Harbour?

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

#2906 Post by ChillyPhilly » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:57 am

[Shuz] wrote:Couple of mentions over at Railpage that Salisbury electrification has (once again) now going to go all the way to Gawler and a second batch of EMUs will be ordered.

Expect an election announcement of course.
Yes please.

Probably unrelated and a massive stretch but the former ticket office at Salisbury station was open today - albeit with random Adelaide Metro staff.
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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

#2907 Post by Joelmark » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:30 pm

Thanks for all the updates and especially to those who post current construction pics - much appreciated when you're living abroad!

Re: Gawler line, I've heard it is all set to start, a contract is ready to be signed, etc. but the State Opposition in the Public Works Committee in State Parliament are holding up the final approval of the Gawler Line Electrification report that needs to be signed off by the committee.

Hopefully the impasse can be sorted soon, and works can start within weeks.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

#2908 Post by Tonsley213 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:42 pm

Who won the contract?

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

#2909 Post by Joelmark » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:57 am

Tonsley213 wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:42 pm
Who won the contract?
(1) Laing 0'Rourke - AECOM & (2) LandLease were the two finalists (according to the guys at Railpage). Winner
I guess will be announced once the impasse mentioned above has been resolved

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

#2910 Post by Norman » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:42 am

Pics from this morning

Croydon Station
The platform is complete, but a lot of access paths are still unfinished and they haven't started on the shelter yet.

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West platform ramp

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Queen Street crossing

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East platform ramp

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