[U/C] Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

Threads relating to transport, water, etc. within the CBD and Metropolitan area.
Message
Author
User avatar
Norman
Donating Member
Donating Member
Posts: 5455
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:06 pm
Has thanked: 701 times
Been thanked: 1151 times

[U/C] Re: [U/C] Re: Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

#646 Post by Norman » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:47 pm

ralmin wrote:I'm still waiting to see a detailed map of how the shared cycling pedestrian pathway will cross over or under the junction with Salisbury Hwy and Port River Expressway, to connect between South Road and the path that follows the Northern Connector.

At some point in the future I hope there is also an east-west pathway constructed, to get bikes off the Port River Expressway.
Have you tried to contact the project team about it?

ralmin
Sen-Rookie-Sational
Posts: 25
Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:38 pm
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 3 times

[U/C] Re: [U/C] Re: Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

#647 Post by ralmin » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:18 am

Norman wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:47 pm
Have you tried to contact the project team about it?
A year ago I did and got the reply:
Northern Connector Project wrote: The design for the Shared Use Path has not yet been finalised – the drawings noted below are from the reference design that is currently being further developed.

Further information regarding the path will be uploaded on to the website as it becomes available

muzzamo
Legendary Member!
Posts: 927
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:44 pm
Been thanked: 14 times

[U/C] Re: Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

#648 Post by muzzamo » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:31 pm


Eurostar
High Rise Poster!
Posts: 338
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:44 pm
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 19 times

[U/C] Re: Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

#649 Post by Eurostar » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:52 pm

It looks like Bolivar Road/Port Wakefield Highway intersection will move slightly south

Goodsy
Legendary Member!
Posts: 847
Joined: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:39 am
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 120 times

[U/C] Re: Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

#650 Post by Goodsy » Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:57 pm

Eurostar wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:52 pm
It looks like Bolivar Road/Port Wakefield Highway intersection will move slightly south
It will

Image

User avatar
[Shuz]
Super Size Scraper Poster!
Posts: 2478
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:26 pm
Has thanked: 818 times
Been thanked: 228 times

[U/C] Re: Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

#651 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:59 pm

That merge is going to get real ugly where the northbound PWR left onto the NC onramp conflicts with southbound PWR and eastbound Bolivar Road traffic wanting to go southbound onto the NC. There's barely 50-100m of conflicting crossover.
Attachments
20180425_150143.jpg
Merge conflict
20180425_150143.jpg (1010.06 KiB) Viewed 2505 times
Any views and opinions expressed are of my own, and do not reflect the views or opinions of any organisation of which I have an affiliation with.

Goodsy
Legendary Member!
Posts: 847
Joined: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:39 am
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 120 times

[U/C] Re: Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

#652 Post by Goodsy » Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:57 pm

[Shuz] wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:59 pm
That merge is going to get real ugly where the northbound PWR left onto the NC onramp conflicts with southbound PWR and eastbound Bolivar Road traffic wanting to go southbound onto the NC. There's barely 50-100m of conflicting crossover.
I can't imagine they're expecting much traffic to turn left there from PWR

Mr Messy
Gold-Member ;)
Posts: 56
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:55 pm
Been thanked: 10 times

[U/C] Re: Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

#653 Post by Mr Messy » Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:59 pm

Alternatively just use a signallised left turn

User avatar
rev
Super Size Scraper Poster!
Posts: 3478
Joined: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:14 pm
Has thanked: 152 times
Been thanked: 267 times

[U/C] Re: Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

#654 Post by rev » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:58 pm

[Shuz] wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:59 pm
That merge is going to get real ugly where the northbound PWR left onto the NC onramp conflicts with southbound PWR and eastbound Bolivar Road traffic wanting to go southbound onto the NC. There's barely 50-100m of conflicting crossover.
Why totally ignore what’s just to the south of that?

Brucetiki
Legendary Member!
Posts: 679
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:20 pm
Has thanked: 295 times
Been thanked: 26 times

[U/C] Re: Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

#655 Post by Brucetiki » Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:38 pm

mawsonguy wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:37 pm
Drone footage of Northern Connector Zone 1 & 2 progress as at April 2018: https://vimeo.com/265694616.

Unfortunately, nothing on the Bolivar Interchange.
That looks pretty impressive so far.

mawsonguy
High Rise Poster!
Posts: 136
Joined: Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:11 am
Been thanked: 70 times

[U/C] Re: Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

#656 Post by mawsonguy » Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:58 pm

The community update for May 2018 is now available online at https://www.infrastructure.sa.gov.au/__ ... _LR_v6.pdf. Nothing really new. However, it says that 13km of the 15.5km northern connector will be surfaced in concrete but the 4 interchanges will be surfaced in asphalt. I'm sure that there is a valid engineering reason for only asphalt being used at the interchanges. Could one of the engineers on the list tells what it is?

Patrick_27
Legendary Member!
Posts: 1485
Joined: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:41 pm
Location: Adelaide CBD, SA
Been thanked: 169 times

[U/C] Re: Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

#657 Post by Patrick_27 » Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:06 pm

mawsonguy wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:58 pm
The community update for May 2018 is now available online at https://www.infrastructure.sa.gov.au/__ ... _LR_v6.pdf. Nothing really new. However, it says that 13km of the 15.5km northern connector will be surfaced in concrete but the 4 interchanges will be surfaced in asphalt. I'm sure that there is a valid engineering reason for only asphalt being used at the interchanges. Could one of the engineers on the list tells what it is?
This was announced some time ago... The reasoning behind it is that concrete is cheaper and supports local industries that are producing it; it's also a lot stronger with a longer life and less maintenance required than that of asphalt which is perfect for a roadway expected to be used a lot by freight.

I think it's a great outcome and would love to see it considered more in Adelaide, especially bus heavy routes such as Grenfell and Currie Streets. What you'll notice a lot in Sydney is that there bus-lanes are made of concrete with asphalt for the neighbouring standard vehicle roadways.

SBD
Legendary Member!
Posts: 677
Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:49 pm
Location: Blakeview
Has thanked: 201 times
Been thanked: 58 times

[U/C] Re: Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

#658 Post by SBD » Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:14 am

Patrick_27 wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:06 pm
mawsonguy wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:58 pm
The community update for May 2018 is now available online at https://www.infrastructure.sa.gov.au/__ ... _LR_v6.pdf. Nothing really new. However, it says that 13km of the 15.5km northern connector will be surfaced in concrete but the 4 interchanges will be surfaced in asphalt. I'm sure that there is a valid engineering reason for only asphalt being used at the interchanges. Could one of the engineers on the list tells what it is?
This was announced some time ago... The reasoning behind it is that concrete is cheaper and supports local industries that are producing it; it's also a lot stronger with a longer life and less maintenance required than that of asphalt which is perfect for a roadway expected to be used a lot by freight.

I think it's a great outcome and would love to see it considered more in Adelaide, especially bus heavy routes such as Grenfell and Currie Streets. What you'll notice a lot in Sydney is that there bus-lanes are made of concrete with asphalt for the neighbouring standard vehicle roadways.
So why would the interchanges be asphalt instead of building the full length with concrete? Does it have to do with wear, grip or noise when braking or turning for example?

Patrick_27
Legendary Member!
Posts: 1485
Joined: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:41 pm
Location: Adelaide CBD, SA
Been thanked: 169 times

[U/C] Re: Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

#659 Post by Patrick_27 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:30 am

SBD wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:14 am
Patrick_27 wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:06 pm
mawsonguy wrote:
Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:58 pm
The community update for May 2018 is now available online at https://www.infrastructure.sa.gov.au/__ ... _LR_v6.pdf. Nothing really new. However, it says that 13km of the 15.5km northern connector will be surfaced in concrete but the 4 interchanges will be surfaced in asphalt. I'm sure that there is a valid engineering reason for only asphalt being used at the interchanges. Could one of the engineers on the list tells what it is?
This was announced some time ago... The reasoning behind it is that concrete is cheaper and supports local industries that are producing it; it's also a lot stronger with a longer life and less maintenance required than that of asphalt which is perfect for a roadway expected to be used a lot by freight.

I think it's a great outcome and would love to see it considered more in Adelaide, especially bus heavy routes such as Grenfell and Currie Streets. What you'll notice a lot in Sydney is that there bus-lanes are made of concrete with asphalt for the neighbouring standard vehicle roadways.
So why would the interchanges be asphalt instead of building the full length with concrete? Does it have to do with wear, grip or noise when braking or turning for example?
Good question, and one that I don't know the answer to... All I can offer is that concrete roads are made in such a way that gripping wouldn't necessarily be an issue, it could be a simple factor of asphalt is easier to lay in around bends than concrete otherwise maybe it's meant to act as an interchange or transition point between the concrete and asphalt surfaces... Who knows?

aaronjameslange
Sen-Rookie-Sational
Posts: 20
Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:53 pm
Been thanked: 2 times

[U/C] Re: Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

#660 Post by aaronjameslange » Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:16 pm

My guess is that the whole northern and southern interchange will be asphalt, but the rest of the connector in concrete. Bolivar and waterloo will have asphalt on ramps, off ramps, bridges etc, but i doubt the main carriageway will change to asphalt for such a short period. In otherwords, there will be 13km of continuous concrete dual carriageway from the northern end of the prexy interchange, to the southern end of the nexy interchange. As soon as you take an off ramp anywhere you will be on asphalt.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google Adsense [Bot] and 5 guests