[U/C] Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

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[U/C] Re: Northern Connector | 14km | $1b

#661 Post by Goodsy » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:23 pm


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#662 Post by Eurostar » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:06 pm

Once the Northern Connector and Torrens to Torrens is open I can see a lot of people from the city travelling via this corridor to get to the Salisbury West suburbs rather than Churchill, Prospect or Main North Roads. And at least if there is accident on Salisbury Highway drivers can be diverted

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#663 Post by Patrick_27 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:33 am

Eurostar wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:06 pm
Once the Northern Connector and Torrens to Torrens is open I can see a lot of people from the city travelling via this corridor to get to the Salisbury West suburbs rather than Churchill, Prospect or Main North Roads. And at least if there is accident on Salisbury Highway drivers can be diverted
Whilst the current focus beyond this, Darlington and T2T is likely the section of South Road between Cross Road and Tonsley, I'd actually favour the section from Torrens to James Congdon Drive simply because it will allow for quick CBD access to the motorway instead of traffic having to trawl through a four lane section of South Road or Port Road simply to get to the motorway.

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#664 Post by SBD » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:19 am

Patrick_27 wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:33 am
Eurostar wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:06 pm
Once the Northern Connector and Torrens to Torrens is open I can see a lot of people from the city travelling via this corridor to get to the Salisbury West suburbs rather than Churchill, Prospect or Main North Roads. And at least if there is accident on Salisbury Highway drivers can be diverted
Whilst the current focus beyond this, Darlington and T2T is likely the section of South Road between Cross Road and Tonsley, I'd actually favour the section from Torrens to James Congdon Drive simply because it will allow for quick CBD access to the motorway instead of traffic having to trawl through a four lane section of South Road or Port Road simply to get to the motorway.
I imagine that the construction techniques will be sufficiently different that the lead contractors and main subcontractors would be different for the elevated roadway south of Cross Road and for the cut-and-cover tunnels at SDBD and HBR, so it is possible that (if budget could be found), two or even three segments could be worked simultaneously, the same as now.

Ideally, if the Seaford railway has to be stopped for significant work at Oaklands, someone could find and promote plans for Emerson and do work on them both at the same time.

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#665 Post by Norman » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:37 am

SBD wrote:Ideally, if the Seaford railway has to be stopped for significant work at Oaklands, someone could find and promote plans for Emerson and do work on them both at the same time.
Yes, it would have been ideal, but impossible now that the Oaklands project has started.

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#666 Post by claybro » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:44 pm

Patrick_27 wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:33 am
Eurostar wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:06 pm
Once the Northern Connector and Torrens to Torrens is open I can see a lot of people from the city travelling via this corridor to get to the Salisbury West suburbs rather than Churchill, Prospect or Main North Roads. And at least if there is accident on Salisbury Highway drivers can be diverted
Whilst the current focus beyond this, Darlington and T2T is likely the section of South Road between Cross Road and Tonsley, I'd actually favour the section from Torrens to James Congdon Drive simply because it will allow for quick CBD access to the motorway instead of traffic having to trawl through a four lane section of South Road or Port Road simply to get to the motorway.
Once again, the North/South motorway is not designed for ease of access to or from the CBD. Any effort to facilitate faster vehicle access to the CBD will be detrimental to both the motorway, and the CBD itself.

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#667 Post by Goodsy » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:49 pm

claybro wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:44 pm
Patrick_27 wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:33 am
Eurostar wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:06 pm
Once the Northern Connector and Torrens to Torrens is open I can see a lot of people from the city travelling via this corridor to get to the Salisbury West suburbs rather than Churchill, Prospect or Main North Roads. And at least if there is accident on Salisbury Highway drivers can be diverted
Whilst the current focus beyond this, Darlington and T2T is likely the section of South Road between Cross Road and Tonsley, I'd actually favour the section from Torrens to James Congdon Drive simply because it will allow for quick CBD access to the motorway instead of traffic having to trawl through a four lane section of South Road or Port Road simply to get to the motorway.
Once again, the North/South motorway is not designed for ease of access to or from the CBD. Any effort to facilitate faster vehicle access to the CBD will be detrimental to both the motorway, and the CBD itself.
that's what the planners want, but it's not what will happen when it's completed... Developers around Virginia/Two Wells are using close proximity to the NExy as a selling point

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#668 Post by rhino » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:48 am

Goodsy wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:49 pm
that's what the planners want, but it's not what will happen when it's completed... Developers around Virginia/Two Wells are using close proximity to the NExy as a selling point
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#669 Post by mawsonguy » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:57 pm

Adelaide Brighton (which is supplying the concrete for the Northern Connector) held an investor's briefing which resulted in this comment published on 12 June 2018 (https://www.fnarena.com/index.php/2018/ ... -brighton/), "The main disappointment is the continued delay of the northern connector project in South Australia ..." May be that is why the State Goverment suddenly has a Channel 9 News "exclusive" (https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/ ... ct-preview), also published on 12 June 2018, saying that "earthworks are almost complete" when clearly they aren't (you would think that the journos would twig that they were being sold a pup when they saw the video of a 4WD bumping along an ungraded single lane dirt track across the salt pans).

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#670 Post by ChillyPhilly » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:48 pm

The plan was always to build the embankment then let it settle for a year - the concrete won't take long to do.
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#671 Post by mawsonguy » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:57 am

ChillyPhilly wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:48 pm
The plan was always to build the embankment then let it settle for a year - the concrete won't take long to do.
Yes, but it's the middle of 2018 and the embankment is nowhere near finished. If the embankment has to settle for a year then a late 2019 opening is increasingly unlikely.

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#672 Post by SBD » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:04 am

mawsonguy wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:57 am
ChillyPhilly wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:48 pm
The plan was always to build the embankment then let it settle for a year - the concrete won't take long to do.
Yes, but it's the middle of 2018 and the embankment is nowhere near finished. If the embankment has to settle for a year then a late 2019 opening is increasingly unlikely.
So is there a real delay, or did Adelaide Brighton just get set up earlier/quicker than expected?

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#673 Post by Goodsy » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:07 pm

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#674 Post by mawsonguy » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:55 pm

A longer version of the video was originally posted on Vimeo on 20 April 2018 so the above video is a bit out of date. It's a pity that the contractor for the southern half of the connector hasn't posted drone footage of anything other than the southern interchange.

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#675 Post by Goodsy » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:21 pm

mawsonguy wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:55 pm
A longer version of the video was originally posted on Vimeo on 20 April 2018 so the above video is a bit out of date. It's a pity that the contractor for the southern half of the connector hasn't posted drone footage of anything other than the southern interchange.
Whoops.. DPTI really need to get better media consultants

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