Only closing for a few days over the christmas/new year holiday period for maintenance/fixing stuff-ups.skyliner wrote:So is the Belair line closing? Out of touch here but would not be surprised - thematic with killing off the whole metro system as is the Seaview line fiasco. If brisbane can have an electrified system in 1988 when it was of similar size to Adelaide, it begs the question here. (info from Australian year books re city size).
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BREAKING: @SMullighan & Fed Gov announce plans to extend Tonsley Rail to Flinders Medical Centre & @Flinders Uni
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Finally, finally, FINALLY!
This has been on my personal wish-list for Adelaide public transport for years.
But is that only one train track I can see in the render?
This has been on my personal wish-list for Adelaide public transport for years.
But is that only one train track I can see in the render?
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Definitely looks like a single track to me. Surely they would duplicate it.. Surely!!PeFe wrote:Finally, finally, FINALLY!
This has been on my personal wish-list for Adelaide public transport for years.
But is that only one train track I can see in the render?
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And what happened to the proposed bus interchange in the Sturt triangle?
The idea was to terminate buses from suburbs south of the medical centre at the interchange, enabling quick train trips into the city and taking hundreds of buses off South Road.
The idea was to terminate buses from suburbs south of the medical centre at the interchange, enabling quick train trips into the city and taking hundreds of buses off South Road.
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The train is going to the entrance of Flinders Private Hospital, behind a carpark. It's a 5 minute walk to FMC, and not very helpful for people going to most of the Uni. Previous designs have either stopped at the entrance of FMC, or stopped at FMC and the University.
I can see why they did it - this location means they don't have buy houses to widen the road (the road isn't wide and the traffic already banks up at the South Rd/Flinders Drive intersection). But this location isn't particularly user friendly.
I can see why they did it - this location means they don't have buy houses to widen the road (the road isn't wide and the traffic already banks up at the South Rd/Flinders Drive intersection). But this location isn't particularly user friendly.
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The expressway worked fine going in one direction at a time. The trains can go to Flinders in the morning, and go to town in the afternoon. Think of all the money they'll save!SouthAussie94 wrote:Definitely looks like a single track to me. Surely they would duplicate it.. Surely!!PeFe wrote:Finally, finally, FINALLY!
This has been on my personal wish-list for Adelaide public transport for years.
But is that only one train track I can see in the render?
For 1km, I think we can live with a single track. It is the end of the line, after all.
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My best guess is that this location offers the most scope for future extension. Around the back of the hospital, up the valley with the footbridge, across Sturt gorge and up to Aberfoyle Park/Flagstaff Hill.notmichaeljfox wrote:The train is going to the entrance of Flinders Private Hospital, behind a carpark. It's a 5 minute walk to FMC, and not very helpful for people going to most of the Uni. Previous designs have either stopped at the entrance of FMC, or stopped at FMC and the University.
I can see why they did it - this location means they don't have buy houses to widen the road (the road isn't wide and the traffic already banks up at the South Rd/Flinders Drive intersection). But this location isn't particularly user friendly.
It's currently single track from Celtic Avenue to Tonsley Station. This distance, combined with the extension gives roughly 2.5km of single track.notmichaeljfox wrote:
The expressway worked fine going in one direction at a time. The trains can go to Flinders in the morning, and go to town in the afternoon. Think of all the money they'll save!
For 1km, I think we can live with a single track. It is the end of the line, after all.
The 3km distance between the Ascot Park Junction and Tonsley was enough to limit the frequency at which trains could run when it was single track. I would imagine that having this 2.5km section of track would have a similar effect, limiting the frequency at which trains can run. This could be the difference between 4 trains an hour versus having 2/3.
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Halleluja! Let's hope that this is funded and that they finally fix the train line to nowhere! A passing loop at Clovelly Park should be enough to ensure a 15 minute headway, unless they plan to duplicate more of the track.
The passing loop was included in one of the first Tonsley Line proposals that would guarantee a 15 minute frequency was possible.
The passing loop was included in one of the first Tonsley Line proposals that would guarantee a 15 minute frequency was possible.
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Great news!
This extension gives extra purpose and value to the Tonsley line. It provides access to the emerging Tonsley Hub (and surrounds) and Flinders medical facilities and University.
The single line at the terminating end makes it more likely to get this extension built sooner than later?
Given the terrain and the sprawling buildings/schools around the University campus, the Flinders loop bus should connect with the train station and schedule.
http://www.flinders.edu.au/campus/locat ... op-bus.cfm
Campus map:
http://www.flinders.edu.au/about_the_ca ... us_map.pdf
This forum is already exploring future options for further extension. I'm not sure about the likelihood given the gradients, cost etc. but interested to read these suggestions.
The rail extension should provide much improved accessibility to Flinders, take more cars off the road, reduce pressure on the bulging car parks and improve the interconnectedness and attraction of the Tonsley Hub and Flinders education, medical precinct. The Sturt Triangle bus interchange (when built?) will add to public transport options for the southern suburbs.
This extension gives extra purpose and value to the Tonsley line. It provides access to the emerging Tonsley Hub (and surrounds) and Flinders medical facilities and University.
The single line at the terminating end makes it more likely to get this extension built sooner than later?
Given the terrain and the sprawling buildings/schools around the University campus, the Flinders loop bus should connect with the train station and schedule.
http://www.flinders.edu.au/campus/locat ... op-bus.cfm
Campus map:
http://www.flinders.edu.au/about_the_ca ... us_map.pdf
This forum is already exploring future options for further extension. I'm not sure about the likelihood given the gradients, cost etc. but interested to read these suggestions.
The rail extension should provide much improved accessibility to Flinders, take more cars off the road, reduce pressure on the bulging car parks and improve the interconnectedness and attraction of the Tonsley Hub and Flinders education, medical precinct. The Sturt Triangle bus interchange (when built?) will add to public transport options for the southern suburbs.
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I think making just the terminus station at Flinders double track/platform would make the line sufficient to be able to run trains at 15 minute frequencies, and also significantly reduce the costs of building the viaduct.Norman wrote:Halleluja! Let's hope that this is funded and that they finally fix the train line to nowhere! A passing loop at Clovelly Park should be enough to ensure a 15 minute headway, unless they plan to duplicate more of the track.
The passing loop was included in one of the first Tonsley Line proposals that would guarantee a 15 minute frequency was possible.
I know here in Brisbane the Airport line is on a single track viaduct (where it branches off from the main line at Eagle Junction) for about 9km with two stations, both double track/platform stations and manages to run trains every 15 minutes in peak hour.
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If they extended it to Flinders in the spot they have, I think it looks like the long term plan is to extend the line again behind the university campus. Looking at the terrain gradient / slopes and land reservations on Google - this is definitely doable. Not without a bit of cost though. I think this is just stage 1 of the rail extension.
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Extend to where?[Shuz] wrote:If they extended it to Flinders in the spot they have, I think it looks like the long term plan is to extend the line again behind the university campus. Looking at the terrain gradient / slopes and land reservations on Google - this is definitely doable. Not without a bit of cost though. I think this is just stage 1 of the rail extension.
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I agree, where? I reckon the Uni would be the end.monotonehell wrote:Extend to where?[Shuz] wrote:If they extended it to Flinders in the spot they have, I think it looks like the long term plan is to extend the line again behind the university campus. Looking at the terrain gradient / slopes and land reservations on Google - this is definitely doable. Not without a bit of cost though. I think this is just stage 1 of the rail extension.
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