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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2191 Post by Torrens_5022 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:32 am

Rail shuttle does sound like a train - but its a bus since it's leaving from a bus stop, it would be nice if they used the word bus to describe this service. Also if it was a rail service wouldn't it also stop at Seaford Meadows. https://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announ ... nterchange

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#2192 Post by Milkomeda » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:20 am

According to a train driver the Noarlunga Line is going to be reopened in 6 weeks (thats when they are rostered to start on the Noarlunga Line)

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2193 Post by Tonsley213 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:08 pm

Milkomeda wrote:According to a train driver the Noarlunga Line is going to be reopened in 6 weeks (thats when they are rostered to start on the Noarlunga Line)
Milkomeda if your going to paraphrase something, at least do it correctly.

They said that the 6-week consultation had begun and that could be pushed back at anytime. You might want to go back and just double check what was said.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2194 Post by Vjkdigital » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:14 am

Facebook reports that test trains ran today. Report from someone living near woodlands park station.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2195 Post by Milkomeda » Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:16 pm

ABC reporting the Labor government now plans to extend the partial electrification of the Gawler line from Dry Creek to Salisbury

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#2196 Post by Torrens_5022 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:25 pm

Something seems odd with the extension of electrification to Salisbury, trams to Salisbury this seems very odd.
"Once the work is completed, passengers using the line up to Salisbury will be able to travel on the trams while trains will continue to service stations to Gawler." http://www.news.com.au/national/south-a ... 6744567516.

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#2197 Post by Norman » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:29 pm

Yet again, The Advertiser has no idea what it's talking about. They also wrote about duplicating South Road between Old Noarlunga and Seaford when that is already the case. Seaford to Aldinga will get duplicated, maybe that's where they got confused.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2198 Post by monotonehell » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:03 am

Torrens_5022 wrote:Something seems odd with the extension of electrification to Salisbury, trams to Salisbury this seems very odd.
"Once the work is completed, passengers using the line up to Salisbury will be able to travel on the trams while trains will continue to service stations to Gawler." http://www.news.com.au/national/south-a ... 6744567516.
It should read something like: "Once the work is completed, passengers using the line up to Salisbury will be able to travel on the electric trains. While old diesel trains will continue to service stations beyond Salisbury to Gawler."
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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2199 Post by Hooligan » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:01 am

So if traveling from gawler you have to switch trains at Salisbury? I can't see how people would have a problem with that plan.

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#2200 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:05 am

Wouldn't that require a turn back facility at Salisbury?
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#2201 Post by AG » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:15 am

[Shuz] wrote:Wouldn't that require a turn back facility at Salisbury?
There already is a turn back track at Salisbury, located about 500m north of the station.

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#2202 Post by Norman » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:16 am

I would think that diesel trains would serve the entire Adelaide to Gawler corridor, while the electric trains would serve between Adelaide and Salisbury as additional or all stop services. A turnback is not required as the station already has switches on both sides of the station.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2203 Post by Brucetiki » Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:12 pm

AG wrote:
[Shuz] wrote:Wouldn't that require a turn back facility at Salisbury?
There already is a turn back track at Salisbury, located about 500m north of the station.
The last remaining part of the Penfield line I believe. I also believe it hasn't been used for years as it's in quite a poor condition.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2204 Post by crawf » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:57 am

My blood is about to boil!. F*ck this liberal government.

All I can is I hope the State Government can fund the $76 million shortfall. It's a much needed project for the north and not exactly a big amount of money.
Federal Government pulls plug on $76m Gawler line electrification
DANIEL WILLS STATE POLITICAL EDITOR THE ADVERTISER OCTOBER 23, 2013 12:30PM 2

PLANS to electrify the Gawler train line have been torpedoed just a day after being reannounced, as the Federal Government withdraws $76.2 million in expected funding.

The Advertiser can reveal Federal Infrastructure and Regional Development Minister Warren Truss has written to the State Government advising it of the shock move. A furious State Goverment has condemned the cut as an "act of bastardry" that will kill off the project.

Premier Jay Weatherill on Tuesday said he had "reconfigured" the long-promised upgrade and would start work by the end of this year, with completion expected in 2015. He spruiked it as one of the "first steps" towards ensuring his 30-year transport vision became reality.

Mr Truss' five-sentence letter to SA Transport and Infrastructure Minister Mr Koutsantonis, sent yesterday, says funding earmarked by federal Labor before the election will not be delivered.

"The Australian Government is focusing its investment priorities on rail freight projects and the delivery of roads and highways to improve productivity and safety for all road users," he writes.

"I understand you have been working to progress your proposal to electrify the Gawler line.

"I am writing to advise you of my decision to withdraw the remaining Australian Government funding from the Gawler Line Modernisation project."

Removal of Federal Government funding effectively means Mr Weatherill must find an extra $76.2 million from an extremely tight State Budget to finish the project, or abandon the project.

About 10,000 passengers use the line each weekday when operational.

Mr Koutsantonis yesterday said he first learnt of the move from The Advertiser.

"Ripping this out is a complete act of bastardry on the people of the north," he said.

"The Prime Minister's personal discussions with the Premier were that if we'd gone out to tender, they would be honoured. "This is a breach of that promise.

"We've gone out to tender on Gawler, we had an agreement with the government of the day.

"They are killing this project and breaking the hearts of everyone in the north."

Assistant Federal Infrastructure and Regional Development Minister Jamie Briggs said the Coalition had made clear during the campaign it did not intend to fund urban rail.

He also attacked the State Government for failing to consult with his department over the 30-year transport vision it released on Monday. He said $2 million pledged by the previous Labor federal government to help develop the plan would also not be paid.

"We were really dismayed by that plan, which had been released without consultation with us despite the fact that is seeking a lot of Federal Government money," Mr Briggs said.

"They really need to show some good faith and work out what their priorities are."

The Gawler electrification plans announced by the State Government this week were a significant shift from those included in its May Budget. At the time, a total $152.4 million was to be spent over three years to electrify the Gawler line from the Adelaide to Dry Creek.

A new electrical substation at Kilburn was also to be built.

The State Government now says construction of the substation can be "staged", allowing the line to be electrified all the way to Salisbury for the same total project cost.

Work now planned on the Gawler electrification includes installation of overhead wiring, new signalling systems, fibre optic communications cables and service relocations.

Mr Koutsantonis yesterday released correspondence showing the revised electrification plans were raised with the former Labor federal government, which committed to "work together in finalising the funding agreement".

"They have played a cruel hoax on people in Adelaide's northern suburbs for years," she said.

"Weatherill Labor's incompetent management of rail projects may have been a deciding factor in the Federal Government choosing to stop working with them on public transport projects."

The Gawler rail line dispute comes amid a separate standoff between the two governments over South Rd. Prime Minister Tony Abbott at the weekend pledged support to complete the entire corridor within a decade, but remains in conflict with the State Government over where to start.

The Coalition has earmarked $500 million to the Darlington Interchange, while the State Government is pushing for money to deliver the Torrens to Torrens project near Port Rd.

The Federal Government has demanded the State Government produce a business plan for the Darlington upgrade by Christmas, a project Mr Abbott campaigned on at last month's election.

Today's news comes as another blow to train commuters, who have suffered through a series of backflips and broken promises on electrification of Adelaide's rail network.

In last year's Budget, the State Government moved to "suspend" $2.1 billion in works.

Adelaide's rail electrification project was intended to cover more than 100km of track across the metropolitan area from Gawler to Seaford, and Adelaide to Outer Harbor.

Work is currently well advanced on the Seaford line.

Electric trains are quieter and more energy efficient than traditional diesel services.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2205 Post by fabricator » Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:55 am

crawf I agree with your 100% there, except for one thing.
They still aren't a government, as there still has not been a meeting of parliament.

That story is an insult to the electrons inconvenienced to bring it to us, to think people will have done to same with paper and coloured dyes.

Since when did having anything good, new or reliable become some sort of gold plated monument we can't afford or need ?
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