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claybro wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:05 pm

kymbosa wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:36 pm

ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:48 pm

Hopefully a three-car electric set is enough to address capacity issues that arise in morning and evening peaks before and after Mawson Lakes, which is easily the most heavily patronised station on the line. Most passengers can get a seat before there, but after, it is not possible.

I always laugh when I see this; head to London in which if you travelled from the otter suburbs into the centre of town, which could take over 20mins, you’ll be lucky to get a seat.

At most you stand for 20mins, it’s a service that makes sure you get to town, it never says you’ll always get a seat.

London?! Even in Perth it is rare to get a seat on the train during peak. Once again, you can stand for 30 odd minutes on the train, or crawl along the exact same route on the freeway in your car for up to an hour, then pay exorbitant carparking at the city end.

SBD wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:05 pm

claybro wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:05 pm

kymbosa wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:36 pm

I always laugh when I see this; head to London in which if you travelled from the otter suburbs into the centre of town, which could take over 20mins, you’ll be lucky to get a seat.

At most you stand for 20mins, it’s a service that makes sure you get to town, it never says you’ll always get a seat.

London?! Even in Perth it is rare to get a seat on the train during peak. Once again, you can stand for 30 odd minutes on the train, or crawl along the exact same route on the freeway in your car for up to an hour, then pay exorbitant carparking at the city end.

The new trains are specified as 240 seated, up to 300 standing, so it is expected that half the passengers don’t get a seat.

Llessur2002 wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:46 pm

Am on a single car train to Outer Harbour - I knew they were running these on the Grange line but it's a first for me on the OH line. More Lib cuts I guess...

SBD wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:22 am

Llessur2002 wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:46 pm

Am on a single car train to Outer Harbour - I knew they were running these on the Grange line but it's a first for me on the OH line. More Lib cuts I guess...

How full was it, and how long until the next one?I 'd rather catch frequent trains than large trains if it's choice.

claybro wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:41 am

This all looks like positive stuff if it actually comes to fruition. A couple of things though. Better integration of rail with other modes of transport is more about the other modes.. than the rail itself. (It is easier to get buses to change to meet train running as they are more flexible). Also speeding up of services. We all agree that trains in Adelaide are painfully slow, with running stock designed for speeds up to 130 km/h... trundling along at 60-70/h. One wonders if this is a track/station placing issue, or the current operator. Maybe tighter scheduling is possible with higher speed, less frequent or alternate stopping patterns. It will be interesting to see what the new operator comes up with, and how much the existing system constrains them.

Europe’s largest rail operator is among three companies in the running to operate Adelaide’s train network.

Transport Minister Stephan Knoll will today announce the consortia short-listed to take over metropolitan services.

Among them are the second wealthiest railway company in the world, a French-based company operating nine international metro networks and an Australian company operating light rail in Melbourne, the Gold Coast and Newcastle.

The consortia, each a partnership between international and Australian firms, will now submit a response to the State Government’s invitation to tender ahead of a decision on the preferred contractor in the second half of 2020.

The move will reignite debate about franchising or privatising the public transport network with Labor threatening to tear up any contracts if they are to win the next election.

Mr Knoll told The Advertiser that the government believes the state’s public transport system has room for improvement.

“What we are seeking to do is bring trains and tram in line with the same model that our buses have operated under for the last 20 years,” he said.

“Encouragingly we’ve seen some green shoots and in the last financial year we saw public transport patronage increase by over one million trips compared to the previous year.”

The consortia vying for the contract are:

ADELAIDE NEXT – German railway company Deutsche Bahn, Europe’s largest rail operator, and Australia’s largest private rail operator John Holland.

KEOLIS DOWNER – French company Keolis SA, currently operating nine metro networks, 23 tram networks and 15 regional train networks around the world and Downer

EDI that has over 100 years’ experience in rail and;

TRAIN CO – The Australian arm of the French-based Transdev Group – a multi-modal passenger transport operator in 19 countries, and CAF, a global railway equipment provider with a base in Sydney.

In November The Advertiser revealed Keolis Downer had won a $1.7 million tender to run an Uber-style bus trial in the Barossa Valley and Mount Barker.

At the time Opposition transport spokesman Tom Koutsantonis raised questions about why the contract did not go out to open tender.

In October The Advertiser revealed dozens of international and interstate companies had shown an interest in taking over Adelaide’s bus and tram services, including several, not part of today’s announcement, that had been embroiled in controversy.

In his boldest pre-election pledge to date, Mr Malinauskas, in October vowed to reverse the “privatisation of tram and train services” if Labor wins the next state election.

He also vowed to examine returning bus services to the public sector.

In April, the State Government announced it would put out tenders for operators to run bus and light-rail services in Adelaide, arguing SA was the only jurisdiction in the country that did not outsource the operation of its tram services.

It also pledged to put out a tender for train services.

jimbly wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:08 am

From the 'Tiser

Europe’s largest rail operator is among three companies in the running to operate Adelaide’s train network.

Transport Minister Stephan Knoll will today announce the consortia short-listed to take over metropolitan services.

Among them are the second wealthiest railway company in the world, a French-based company operating nine international metro networks and an Australian company operating light rail in Melbourne, the Gold Coast and Newcastle.

The consortia, each a partnership between international and Australian firms, will now submit a response to the State Government’s invitation to tender ahead of a decision on the preferred contractor in the second half of 2020.

The move will reignite debate about franchising or privatising the public transport network with Labor threatening to tear up any contracts if they are to win the next election.

Mr Knoll told The Advertiser that the government believes the state’s public transport system has room for improvement.

“What we are seeking to do is bring trains and tram in line with the same model that our buses have operated under for the last 20 years,” he said.

“Encouragingly we’ve seen some green shoots and in the last financial year we saw public transport patronage increase by over one million trips compared to the previous year.”

The consortia vying for the contract are:

ADELAIDE NEXT – German railway company Deutsche Bahn, Europe’s largest rail operator, and Australia’s largest private rail operator John Holland.

KEOLIS DOWNER – French company Keolis SA, currently operating nine metro networks, 23 tram networks and 15 regional train networks around the world and Downer

EDI that has over 100 years’ experience in rail and;

TRAIN CO – The Australian arm of the French-based Transdev Group – a multi-modal passenger transport operator in 19 countries, and CAF, a global railway equipment provider with a base in Sydney.

In November The Advertiser revealed Keolis Downer had won a $1.7 million tender to run an Uber-style bus trial in the Barossa Valley and Mount Barker.

At the time Opposition transport spokesman Tom Koutsantonis raised questions about why the contract did not go out to open tender.

In October The Advertiser revealed dozens of international and interstate companies had shown an interest in taking over Adelaide’s bus and tram services, including several, not part of today’s announcement, that had been embroiled in controversy.

In his boldest pre-election pledge to date, Mr Malinauskas, in October vowed to reverse the “privatisation of tram and train services” if Labor wins the next state election.

He also vowed to examine returning bus services to the public sector.

In April, the State Government announced it would put out tenders for operators to run bus and light-rail services in Adelaide, arguing SA was the only jurisdiction in the country that did not outsource the operation of its tram services.

It also pledged to put out a tender for train services.

Norman wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:20 pm

If the privatisation brings genuine improvements and efficiencies, then it might be a good thing. I'm curious to see what their offers would be and what improvements they are proposing.