JamesXander wrote: Aidan wrote:
I agree that riding a bike is good excercise, but I do feel that bike riders should have to bear some of the burden of instituting all this new infrastucture.
A rego to ride on perhaps bike lanes or dedicated bikes expressways is IMO the best plan, but perhaps it would be best left to an econmist to come up with the most efficient way.
The most efficient way is to ditch the user pays
mindset! If we want to encourage cycling we should forget about trying to make it self funding.
It will never cover its costs, and the cost per user will only be higher if we try to.
But dont you see, to fund the infrastructure where is the funding going to come from. its as much about mentality as it is about revenue as well. It may not cover costs, but it would encourage funding of new projects and sense of funding justice within the community.
Yes it's about mentality - as I said, it's about a mentality we should ditch! It's never going to cover the costs, but the cost per user will be much lower if it's free.
You cannot deny that there is a major resentment towards cyclists.
Yes I can. There is a major resentment towards those few cyclists who think the road rules don't apply to them, but there aren't all that many of those, and it hasn't, at least in Adelaide, translated into a major resentment towards cyclists in general.
Let me say this again, the infrastructure is NEVER going to come quick enough if we do impose a user pay system!
Let me say this again, the infrastructure is NEVER going to come quick enough if we don't accept a user pay system,
because of the funding and because of mentality that it won't be subsidised by the very people who use it. Argue what you will, but its the truth. Adelaide will never be a cycling metropolis unless a stream of funding is found.
I can't see how you can sustain that argument in the face of the existing government funding.
A $50 rego would be a TINY disincentive to ride your bike,
On the contrary, it would be an ENORMOUS disincentive. Currently I'm not using my bike. If there were a good network of cycleways near where I live, I probably would. But if I was slugged with an extra $50 tax, I wouldn't bother.
especially when compared to driving your car. Which you pay tax to buy, to buy fuel, and to have rego. Put yourself in the shoes of someone who is thinking of either riding or driving to work. The $50 annual fee could be recouped within the first week or fortnight through savings in petrol.
Yes, if you put yourself in the shoes of a hypothetical person in an unrealistic situation, of course it's going to look favourable. But in reality someone in a situation like that is more likely than not to start with a preference for driving. The cost or driving may make them switch to cycling - but if there's a $50 fee for that as well, forget it!