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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#661 Post by 1NEEDS2POST » Thu May 23, 2019 2:00 pm

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Wed May 22, 2019 9:55 pm
Never noticed this before because I’m rarely on North Terrace at night, but last week Monday night I noticed the 174 bus to Paradise do a hook turn at the KWS/North Tce intersection turning right onto North Tce.

It makes sense with the tram tracks there, but it’s an odd thing for Adelaide. Are there any other routes that do hook turns?
Buses turning right onto North Tce have used hook turns ever since the original tram extension to West Tce (then Entertainment Centre.) It's the same with buses turning right from Currie St to King William St.
https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.924354 ... 312!8i6656

As for which routes make these turns, it's on this map, if you can make sense of it:
https://adelaidemetro.com.au/content/do ... A3_WEB.pdf

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#662 Post by SBD » Thu May 23, 2019 3:07 pm

Spotto wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 9:55 pm
Never noticed this before because I’m rarely on North Terrace at night, but last week Monday night I noticed the 174 bus to Paradise do a hook turn at the KWS/North Tce intersection turning right onto North Tce.

It makes sense with the tram tracks there, but it’s an odd thing for Adelaide. Are there any other routes that do hook turns?
There is a Bus-only lane on Elizabeth Way facing Main North Road at the left of all the other lanes. It gets its own signal before the green light, so some of the buses use that to turn right (south) onto Main North Road. I've noticed some use the "normal" right turn lane, bu haven't noticed if it depends on the driver preference, the route, or how much traffic was on Elizabeth Way if the bus came from the south side and couldn't easily cross to the Bus-only lane.

Since it has its own lane and signal, I'm not sure if it technically counts as a hook turn or something else.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#663 Post by Eurostar » Thu May 23, 2019 6:11 pm

1NEEDS2POST wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 2:00 pm
Spotto wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 9:55 pm
Never noticed this before because I’m rarely on North Terrace at night, but last week Monday night I noticed the 174 bus to Paradise do a hook turn at the KWS/North Tce intersection turning right onto North Tce.

It makes sense with the tram tracks there, but it’s an odd thing for Adelaide. Are there any other routes that do hook turns?
Buses turning right onto North Tce have used hook turns ever since the original tram extension to West Tce (then Entertainment Centre.) It's the same with buses turning right from Currie St to King William St.
https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.924354 ... 312!8i6656

As for which routes make these turns, it's on this map, if you can make sense of it:
https://adelaidemetro.com.au/content/do ... A3_WEB.pdf
I remember in late 90s the original Payneham Road buses and even the TL10 used to stop just before duty free shop,. To turn right onto North Terrace they had to cross a few lanes, in peak hour thatll be a hard move now

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#664 Post by Modbury_Man » Thu May 23, 2019 9:08 pm

Another hook turn is coming out the northern end of Tea Tree Plaza interchange there is a bus lane at the junction of Northern Roadway/North East Rd/Golden Grove Rd thst allows the 542 and 557 bus routes to turn right from the far left lane. Interestingly the LinkSA bus route which goes the same way as the 542 and 557 never seems to use the bus lane despite it being an official DPTI contracted bus route -
http://linksa.com.au/documents/timetabl ... TP-TTP.pdf

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#665 Post by PeFe » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:13 pm

And now the South Australian government are looking for a site for a Flinders bus interchange !!!!

In 2019 we can't get this right and do it at the same time as the Flinders link extension.......!!!!!

Medium to long term planning in South Australia is absolutely woeful.........D-............!!!!!!!

From In Daily
Search for Flinders/Tonsley bus interchange site

Transport Minister Stephan Knoll said the study would identify the best location for a potential future bus interchange, to improve network integration connectivity from the southern suburbs onto the Tonsley rail line.

“The study will also explore the location of a new bus interchange works with the current bus interchange outside of the Flinders Medical Centre, so we provide better access for customers in the entire area,” he said.

“It will also look at both the Flinders and Tonsley precincts, including modelling current and future demand levels, to identify potential further transport infrastructure and service improvements over the 20 years to support the growth of the two precincts.

“We have already taken action to safeguard land for a potential bus interchange at the new end of the Tonsley line at the Flinders education and medical precinct, and this study will determine if this is the best location.

“We have a fantastic opportunity to better integrate our public transport network once the Flinders Link project is complete and the Tonsley line is extended to the Flinders education and medical precincts.”

Flinders University Vice Chancellor Colin Stirling welcomed the study.

“Flinders University is creating a vibrant urban village centred around the new Flinders rail station at its Bedford Park campus,” he said.

“Flinders Village will be an integrated, mixed use, transport-oriented development featuring student accommodation, research facilities, cafes, shops, entertainment, and community spaces that will be a magnet for students and a lifestyle hub for our neighbouring communities.

“A Flinders bus interchange will further complement the transport opportunities for students, staff, visitors, service providers and local residents and further leverage the state and federal government’s investment in the Flinders Link rail extension.”

The study is expected to be completed by the end of the year.

https://indaily.com.au/news/local/2019/ ... ange-site/

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#666 Post by claybro » Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:12 pm

PeFe wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:13 pm
And now the South Australian government are looking for a site for a Flinders bus interchange !!!!

In 2019 we can't get this right and do it at the same time as the Flinders link extension.......!!!!!

Medium to long term planning in South Australia is absolutely woeful.........D-............!!!!!!!

From In Daily
Search for Flinders/Tonsley bus interchange site

Transport Minister Stephan Knoll said the study would identify the best location for a potential future bus interchange, to improve network integration connectivity from the southern suburbs onto the Tonsley rail line.

“The study will also explore the location of a new bus interchange works with the current bus interchange outside of the Flinders Medical Centre, so we provide better access for customers in the entire area,” he said.

“It will also look at both the Flinders and Tonsley precincts, including modelling current and future demand levels, to identify potential further transport infrastructure and service improvements over the 20 years to support the growth of the two precincts.

“We have already taken action to safeguard land for a potential bus interchange at the new end of the Tonsley line at the Flinders education and medical precinct, and this study will determine if this is the best location.

“We have a fantastic opportunity to better integrate our public transport network once the Flinders Link project is complete and the Tonsley line is extended to the Flinders education and medical precincts.”

Flinders University Vice Chancellor Colin Stirling welcomed the study.

“Flinders University is creating a vibrant urban village centred around the new Flinders rail station at its Bedford Park campus,” he said.

“Flinders Village will be an integrated, mixed use, transport-oriented development featuring student accommodation, research facilities, cafes, shops, entertainment, and community spaces that will be a magnet for students and a lifestyle hub for our neighbouring communities.

“A Flinders bus interchange will further complement the transport opportunities for students, staff, visitors, service providers and local residents and further leverage the state and federal government’s investment in the Flinders Link rail extension.”

The study is expected to be completed by the end of the year.

https://indaily.com.au/news/local/2019/ ... ange-site/
Love the sound of the mixed use urban hub the uni is planning. A great outcome.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Buses

#667 Post by Spotto » Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:39 am

PeFe wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:13 pm
And now the South Australian government are looking for a site for a Flinders bus interchange !!!!

In 2019 we can't get this right and do it at the same time as the Flinders link extension.......!!!!!
Hopefully the bus interchange will end up being built at the same time as the train extension, in anticipation for the future Flinders Village. Mawson Interchange and the rebuilt Munno Parra popped up in anticipation of the immediate vicinity being developed.

The study is due for completion end of this year, the Flinders extension hasn't started construction and isn't expected for competition until at least 2020. Maybe the bus interchange could be added into the project during construction?

On another note, if Flinders Uni are smart, they'll put underground student parking beneath the entire village. The current oval parking will be progressively lost to the new station and the village.

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