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[U/C] Re: North-South Motorway

#3301 Post by jorcoga » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:38 am

I still think the most elegant solution to the 230/232 problem is to just split them and have one run down all the way down Days Road to Torrens Road and the other run further down Regency Road and then through the backstreets on the East side of South Road and then onto Harrison Street. Something like:
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#3302 Post by Eurostar » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:03 am

jorcoga wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:38 am
I still think the most elegant solution to the 230/232 problem is to just split them and have one run down all the way down Days Road to Torrens Road and the other run further down Regency Road and then through the backstreets on the East side of South Road and then onto Harrison Street. Something like:
Or

251-254 via Hawker Street, South Road, Regency Road

230,232 via Torrens Road, Regency Road

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#3303 Post by rev » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:12 am

jorcoga wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:38 am
I still think the most elegant solution to the 230/232 problem is to just split them and have one run down all the way down Days Road to Torrens Road and the other run further down Regency Road and then through the backstreets on the East side of South Road and then onto Harrison Street. Something like:
Yeh because back streets are designed for regular bus services, and I’m sure locals would love the sound of a roaring bus stopping and going past their houses.
This isn’t a CBD it’s suburbia.

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#3304 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:29 am

Several bus routes go through suburban streets, Rev. Look at the Network Map on the AdMet website.
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#3305 Post by Norman » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:46 am

The question would be if these streets are suitable for a large bus, including articulated ones. I drove in that area recently and some of these streets on the map were a bit narrow, and on street parking would need to be removed.

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#3306 Post by Bacon » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:49 am

Just a thought bubble, have they considered having 2 way traffic on the service road? Implementing it at the Torrens and Regency intersections might be a bit tricky though.

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#3307 Post by Norman » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:53 am

Bacon wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:49 am
Just a thought bubble, have they considered having 2 way traffic on the service road? Implementing it at the Torrens and Regency intersections might be a bit tricky though.
Unless you mean 2 way traffic on both sides, it would be impossible. The whole point of these service roads is to enable access to the existing properties and side streets off South Road, so if only one side has the service road it would render the other side cut off from access.

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#3308 Post by SBD » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:03 am

Bacon wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:49 am
Just a thought bubble, have they considered having 2 way traffic on the service road? Implementing it at the Torrens and Regency intersections might be a bit tricky though.
That would make for rather more complex interchanges anywhere that there should be on/off ramps from the freeway as the service road lane nearest the freeway would be travelling in the opposite direction.

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#3309 Post by rev » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:06 pm

[Shuz] wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:29 am
Several bus routes go through suburban streets, Rev. Look at the Network Map on the AdMet website.
Yeh I know, but they shouldn’t.
There’s enough main and arterial roads for buses.

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#3310 Post by Aidan » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:59 pm

jorcoga wrote:I still think the most elegant solution to the 230/232 problem is to just split them and have one run down all the way down Days Road to Torrens Road and the other run further down Regency Road and then through the backstreets on the East side of South Road and then onto Harrison Street.
That's not elegant; it's convoluted! Requiring more buses on the City to Arndale section (so effectively preventing some of them from using the freeway) yet not significantly increasing bus catchment. And also forcing local car traffic to make big detours!

The most elegant solution would be a box culvert underpass to take Pym Street under South Road. But as pipes and cables in the way would make it difficult to construct, a cheaper and almost as elegant solution is a half-thru steel bridge over South Road.
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#3311 Post by Mr Messy » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:08 pm

In non-bus-route related news, there's a new Darlington update out today

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#3312 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:56 pm

Well Aidan, stopping short of 1985 flying DeLoreans, what do you propose?
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#3313 Post by aceman » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:58 pm

Mr Messy wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:08 pm
In non-bus-route related news, there's a new Darlington update out today
what update is that?

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#3314 Post by Mr Messy » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:03 pm


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#3315 Post by how good is he » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:52 am

Saw the massive new Bunnings being built near Castle Plaza on South Rd set back only some 1-2m away from the boundary & road. I don’t know what the DTPI plan is - but heaven help if they have to acquire properties on either side for road widening. Based on what I saw it almost has to be a tunnel.

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