News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

Threads relating to transport, water, etc. within the CBD and Metropolitan area.
Message
Author
User avatar
Pistol
Legendary Member!
Posts: 903
Joined: Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:46 pm
Location: Adelaide
Has thanked: 30 times
Been thanked: 33 times

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2386 Post by Pistol » Tue May 28, 2019 9:00 pm

aceman wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 8:51 pm
are people here aware that there is a full strength infantry battalion (7RAR) as well as supporting units based at Edinburgh with infrastructure that is only about 10 years old. they're not leaving anytime soon.
Shhhh, don't burst their bubble just yet :hilarious:
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken

User avatar
1NEEDS2POST
High Rise Poster!
Posts: 134
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:01 pm
Has thanked: 23 times
Been thanked: 18 times

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2387 Post by 1NEEDS2POST » Tue May 28, 2019 9:18 pm

aceman wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 8:51 pm
are people here aware that there is a full strength infantry battalion (7RAR) as well as supporting units based at Edinburgh with infrastructure that is only about 10 years old. they're not leaving anytime soon.
They don't have to. There's plenty of room on the site for both military and civil aviation, similar to Darwin, Newcastle or Townsville.

SBD
Legendary Member!
Posts: 941
Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:49 pm
Location: Blakeview
Has thanked: 284 times
Been thanked: 74 times

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2388 Post by SBD » Wed May 29, 2019 8:22 am

1NEEDS2POST wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 9:18 pm
aceman wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 8:51 pm
are people here aware that there is a full strength infantry battalion (7RAR) as well as supporting units based at Edinburgh with infrastructure that is only about 10 years old. they're not leaving anytime soon.
They don't have to. There's plenty of room on the site for both military and civil aviation, similar to Darwin, Newcastle or Townsville.
I imagine that if serious civilian use of the Edinburgh runway was to occur in future, it would put all the civilian infrastructure on the western side. Heaslip Road would be closed to extend the runway to as long as Adelaide's, and the civilian infrastructure would go in the land presently bounded by the Northern Expressway, railway line and Heaslip Road.

rev
Super Size Scraper Poster!
Posts: 3726
Joined: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:14 pm
Has thanked: 207 times
Been thanked: 320 times

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2389 Post by rev » Wed May 29, 2019 3:43 pm

1NEEDS2POST wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 9:18 pm
aceman wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 8:51 pm
are people here aware that there is a full strength infantry battalion (7RAR) as well as supporting units based at Edinburgh with infrastructure that is only about 10 years old. they're not leaving anytime soon.
They don't have to. There's plenty of room on the site for both military and civil aviation, similar to Darwin, Newcastle or Townsville.
None of those bases have the critical security infrastructure that Edinburgh has though. Darwin is a forward deployed base.

More importantly why the fuck would they add a civilian terminal at the raaf base? Why when there is a perfectly good one close by...

Logic.

Brucetiki
Legendary Member!
Posts: 720
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:20 pm
Has thanked: 364 times
Been thanked: 37 times

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2390 Post by Brucetiki » Wed May 29, 2019 4:22 pm

At the time Jetstar was entertaining the thought of using Edinburgh, it was at the time they were aiming to minimise the use of main airports (similar to how LCC's in Europe use outpost airports to save on costs). All of their Melbourne flights were flying out of Avalon at the time, and they were hoping to utilise other outpost airports.

Tiger coming in and going straight to Tullamarine for their flights forced Jetstar to start shifting flights there too, and the idea of using outpost airport (with the exception of Avalon) has barely been mentioned since.

NTRabbit
Gold-Member ;)
Posts: 75
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:00 pm
Has thanked: 59 times
Been thanked: 21 times

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2391 Post by NTRabbit » Wed May 29, 2019 8:51 pm

Edinburgh is home to our strategic maritime surveillance wing, that's not the kind of unit that shares space with the public

rev
Super Size Scraper Poster!
Posts: 3726
Joined: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:14 pm
Has thanked: 207 times
Been thanked: 320 times

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2392 Post by rev » Thu May 30, 2019 10:38 am

NTRabbit wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 8:51 pm
Edinburgh is home to our strategic maritime surveillance wing, that's not the kind of unit that shares space with the public
It's home to a lot more then that.

ghs
Super Size Scraper Poster!
Posts: 1535
Joined: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:09 am
Location: Brighton
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 60 times

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2393 Post by ghs » Thu May 30, 2019 10:48 am

rev wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 10:38 am
NTRabbit wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 8:51 pm
Edinburgh is home to our strategic maritime surveillance wing, that's not the kind of unit that shares space with the public
It's home to a lot more then that.
The maritime surveillance wing would be based at DST, not at the RAAF base.

Hooligan
Legendary Member!
Posts: 816
Joined: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:03 pm
Has thanked: 16 times
Been thanked: 18 times

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2394 Post by Hooligan » Thu May 30, 2019 11:59 am

Why people on this site so obsessed with moving the airport? It's in a great location.

Code: Select all

Signature removed 

Westside
High Rise Poster!
Posts: 190
Joined: Tue May 12, 2009 4:30 pm
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 34 times

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2395 Post by Westside » Thu May 30, 2019 12:35 pm

First of all. When people talk about moving the airport to Edinburgh, really the only thing they'd be sharing with Defence is the runway. You build completely separate freight and passenger terminals away from defence operations. With that in mind there's nothing stopping Defence and civilian operations sharing a runway. The inly squabble will be about who retains priority for takeoffs and landings.

Second of all, it's still a dumb idea. Adelaide airport is not running out of capacity any time soon. Even if they get close, there are plenty of other lower cost options at AA to increase capacity without building a whole new airport.

At the end of the day, much of the benefits and competitivity of AA is in its location. For both passengers and freight. Remove that advantage and you are much less competitive than the eastern states options.

Goodsy
Legendary Member!
Posts: 897
Joined: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:39 am
Has thanked: 10 times
Been thanked: 131 times

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2396 Post by Goodsy » Thu May 30, 2019 12:50 pm

Hooligan wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 11:59 am
Why people on this site so obsessed with moving the airport? It's in a great location.
the only logical reason to move it would be to remove height restrictions in the CBD

Saltwater
Sen-Rookie-Sational
Posts: 2
Joined: Wed May 30, 2018 3:07 pm
Been thanked: 3 times

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2397 Post by Saltwater » Thu May 30, 2019 3:14 pm

Forgive my ignorance, I'm a bit of a newbie and don't even live in Adelaide (yet), but on the maps it looks like land was (or still is?) set aside for a parallel runway at ADL, to the North East of the current runway? The alignment of the Kooyonga golf course and open space around West Beach looks like the kind of spot a second runway would go, and the terminal buildings would then be in between the two which makes for more efficient aircraft movements.

I think even if a second Adelaide airport ever took off (pun intended), ADL would likely remain in use for some domestic flights where business travellers prefer the proximity to the CBD, similar to how London City Airport operates very close to Docklands and central London.

rev
Super Size Scraper Poster!
Posts: 3726
Joined: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:14 pm
Has thanked: 207 times
Been thanked: 320 times

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2398 Post by rev » Thu May 30, 2019 6:13 pm

Saltwater wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 3:14 pm
Forgive my ignorance, I'm a bit of a newbie and don't even live in Adelaide (yet), but on the maps it looks like land was (or still is?) set aside for a parallel runway at ADL, to the North East of the current runway? The alignment of the Kooyonga golf course and open space around West Beach looks like the kind of spot a second runway would go, and the terminal buildings would then be in between the two which makes for more efficient aircraft movements.

I think even if a second Adelaide airport ever took off (pun intended), ADL would likely remain in use for some domestic flights where business travellers prefer the proximity to the CBD, similar to how London City Airport operates very close to Docklands and central London.
They'd have to relocate the hangars and buildings for associated airport services. And it would involve a lot of other work to relocate things and make it possible.
I doubt the airport is that busy yet for a second runway for the main commercial airlines, although if it ever did become an issue I think it's more probable that the smaller second runway would be extended.

User avatar
Pistol
Legendary Member!
Posts: 903
Joined: Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:46 pm
Location: Adelaide
Has thanked: 30 times
Been thanked: 33 times

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2399 Post by Pistol » Thu May 30, 2019 7:26 pm

ghs wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 10:48 am
rev wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 10:38 am
NTRabbit wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 8:51 pm
Edinburgh is home to our strategic maritime surveillance wing, that's not the kind of unit that shares space with the public
It's home to a lot more then that.
The maritime surveillance wing would be based at DST, not at the RAAF base.
Um, no.
Both maritime surveillance squadrons are based at Edinburgh.
Then the Maritime Patrol support organisation is based at Edinburgh.
Plus tactical electronic warfare is based at Edinburgh and that would be the reason they would NEVER have commercial operations out of Edinburgh.

Case closed, let's build a bridge and get over it.
Now, how is AAL going?
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken

User avatar
1NEEDS2POST
High Rise Poster!
Posts: 134
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:01 pm
Has thanked: 23 times
Been thanked: 18 times

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2400 Post by 1NEEDS2POST » Thu May 30, 2019 8:50 pm

Saltwater wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 3:14 pm
I think even if a second Adelaide airport ever took off (pun intended), ADL would likely remain in use for some domestic flights where business travellers prefer the proximity to the CBD, similar to how London City Airport operates very close to Docklands and central London.
Adelaide Airport is in a great location, but it's not open 24/7 and people complain about the noise. One of the reasons for Globelink was to operate 24/7. Other airports around the world have curfews too, so to fly to/from those airports during their opening hours, it is advantageous for an airport here to operate 24/7.

That's why I think Adelaide Airport should have the passenger traffic, but anything else should go to another airport.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests