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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2461 Post by muzzamo » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:27 pm

Listy wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:52 pm
A Qantas 747 (flight QFA1364) just flew past my work window on approach to Adelaide AP, (coming from Rockhampton Previous to that it flew an odd looking track from Sydney to Rockhampton this morning). Some kind of special charter flight? Not often you see a Qantas widebody gracing our skies these days...
I think it might be similar military charter flight based on this, which is from June 5th.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=355489368651034

"plane came from darwin carrying Australian diggers - more troops being picked up in Rockhampton before it flies onto Adelaide tomorrow morning"

It looks like two separate 747s have been involved in a rotation of troops between Sydney, Darwin, Rockhampton and Adelaide:

VH-OJU - https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-oju

29 Jul 2019 Rockhampton (ROK) Adelaide (ADL) QF1364 2:28 2:40 PM 2:42 PM 5:00 PM
Landed 4:40 PM
29 Jul 2019 Sydney (SYD) Rockhampton (ROK) QF6162 1:41 — 11:26 AM —
Landed 1:07 PM

VH-OEH -https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-oeh
28 Jul 2019 Adelaide (ADL) Sydney (SYD) QF6164 1:33 — 8:34 AM —
Landed 10:38 AM
28 Jul 2019 Rockhampton (ROK) Adelaide (ADL) QF1364 2:26 — 5:04 AM —
Landed 7:00 AM
27 Jul 2019 Darwin (DRW) Rockhampton (ROK) QF6163 2:43 — 5:33 PM —
Landed 8:47 PM
27 Jul 2019 Rockhampton (ROK) Darwin (DRW) QF1362 2:48 12:55 PM 1:47 PM 3:55 PM
Landed 4:05 PM
27 Jul 2019 Sydney (SYD) Rockhampton (ROK) QF6162 1:37 9:05 AM 9:29 AM 11:15 AM
Landed 11:06 AM

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2462 Post by claybro » Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:00 pm

muzzamo wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:27 pm
Listy wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:52 pm
A Qantas 747 (flight QFA1364) just flew past my work window on approach to Adelaide AP, (coming from Rockhampton Previous to that it flew an odd looking track from Sydney to Rockhampton this morning). Some kind of special charter flight? Not often you see a Qantas widebody gracing our skies these days...
I think it might be similar military charter flight based on this, which is from June 5th.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=355489368651034

"plane came from darwin carrying Australian diggers - more troops being picked up in Rockhampton before it flies onto Adelaide tomorrow morning"

It looks like two separate 747s have been involved in a rotation of troops between Sydney, Darwin, Rockhampton and Adelaide:

VH-OJU - https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-oju

29 Jul 2019 Rockhampton (ROK) Adelaide (ADL) QF1364 2:28 2:40 PM 2:42 PM 5:00 PM
Landed 4:40 PM
29 Jul 2019 Sydney (SYD) Rockhampton (ROK) QF6162 1:41 — 11:26 AM —
Landed 1:07 PM

VH-OEH -https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-oeh
28 Jul 2019 Adelaide (ADL) Sydney (SYD) QF6164 1:33 — 8:34 AM —
Landed 10:38 AM
28 Jul 2019 Rockhampton (ROK) Adelaide (ADL) QF1364 2:26 — 5:04 AM —
Landed 7:00 AM
27 Jul 2019 Darwin (DRW) Rockhampton (ROK) QF6163 2:43 — 5:33 PM —
Landed 8:47 PM
27 Jul 2019 Rockhampton (ROK) Darwin (DRW) QF1362 2:48 12:55 PM 1:47 PM 3:55 PM
Landed 4:05 PM
27 Jul 2019 Sydney (SYD) Rockhampton (ROK) QF6162 1:37 9:05 AM 9:29 AM 11:15 AM
Landed 11:06 AM
Im actually shocked that the flight movements of troop charters is publicly available. I would have thought this information should be classified. If these are actual troop flights, then they are very lax publishing this information. Just like when services personnel appear in uniform on TV with their name badge on display. I would have thought we would be more careful with such information now.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2463 Post by bm7500 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:10 am

The next time a Qantas 747 comes through Adelaide is likely to be on the 23rd November, when it is positioned here for what will be the final Antarctic Flight out of Adelaide on a 747.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2464 Post by GrowAdelaide » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:19 am

Does anyone know if there any statistics available on the number of incoming passengers on domestic flights who have transferred from an international flight?

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2465 Post by rev » Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:13 pm

claybro wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:00 pm
muzzamo wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:27 pm
Listy wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:52 pm
A Qantas 747 (flight QFA1364) just flew past my work window on approach to Adelaide AP, (coming from Rockhampton Previous to that it flew an odd looking track from Sydney to Rockhampton this morning). Some kind of special charter flight? Not often you see a Qantas widebody gracing our skies these days...
I think it might be similar military charter flight based on this, which is from June 5th.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=355489368651034

"plane came from darwin carrying Australian diggers - more troops being picked up in Rockhampton before it flies onto Adelaide tomorrow morning"

It looks like two separate 747s have been involved in a rotation of troops between Sydney, Darwin, Rockhampton and Adelaide:

VH-OJU - https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-oju

29 Jul 2019 Rockhampton (ROK) Adelaide (ADL) QF1364 2:28 2:40 PM 2:42 PM 5:00 PM
Landed 4:40 PM
29 Jul 2019 Sydney (SYD) Rockhampton (ROK) QF6162 1:41 — 11:26 AM —
Landed 1:07 PM

VH-OEH -https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-oeh
28 Jul 2019 Adelaide (ADL) Sydney (SYD) QF6164 1:33 — 8:34 AM —
Landed 10:38 AM
28 Jul 2019 Rockhampton (ROK) Adelaide (ADL) QF1364 2:26 — 5:04 AM —
Landed 7:00 AM
27 Jul 2019 Darwin (DRW) Rockhampton (ROK) QF6163 2:43 — 5:33 PM —
Landed 8:47 PM
27 Jul 2019 Rockhampton (ROK) Darwin (DRW) QF1362 2:48 12:55 PM 1:47 PM 3:55 PM
Landed 4:05 PM
27 Jul 2019 Sydney (SYD) Rockhampton (ROK) QF6162 1:37 9:05 AM 9:29 AM 11:15 AM
Landed 11:06 AM
Im actually shocked that the flight movements of troop charters is publicly available. I would have thought this information should be classified. If these are actual troop flights, then they are very lax publishing this information. Just like when services personnel appear in uniform on TV with their name badge on display. I would have thought we would be more careful with such information now.
RAAF aircraft dont appear on those flight tracker sites/apps. You cant even see POLAIR on there.
Those listed above are commercial aircraft, so the "tracking" sites/apps can see them. But even so its not like RAAF advertise that X commerical plane has been chartered and its whereabouts. That one in the facebook link only made the news because it was a 747 landing at a regional airport.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2466 Post by SBD » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:54 pm

rev wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:13 pm
claybro wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:00 pm
muzzamo wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:27 pm


I think it might be similar military charter flight based on this, which is from June 5th.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=355489368651034

"plane came from darwin carrying Australian diggers - more troops being picked up in Rockhampton before it flies onto Adelaide tomorrow morning"

It looks like two separate 747s have been involved in a rotation of troops between Sydney, Darwin, Rockhampton and Adelaide:

VH-OJU - https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-oju

29 Jul 2019 Rockhampton (ROK) Adelaide (ADL) QF1364 2:28 2:40 PM 2:42 PM 5:00 PM
Landed 4:40 PM
29 Jul 2019 Sydney (SYD) Rockhampton (ROK) QF6162 1:41 — 11:26 AM —
Landed 1:07 PM

VH-OEH -https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-oeh
28 Jul 2019 Adelaide (ADL) Sydney (SYD) QF6164 1:33 — 8:34 AM —
Landed 10:38 AM
28 Jul 2019 Rockhampton (ROK) Adelaide (ADL) QF1364 2:26 — 5:04 AM —
Landed 7:00 AM
27 Jul 2019 Darwin (DRW) Rockhampton (ROK) QF6163 2:43 — 5:33 PM —
Landed 8:47 PM
27 Jul 2019 Rockhampton (ROK) Darwin (DRW) QF1362 2:48 12:55 PM 1:47 PM 3:55 PM
Landed 4:05 PM
27 Jul 2019 Sydney (SYD) Rockhampton (ROK) QF6162 1:37 9:05 AM 9:29 AM 11:15 AM
Landed 11:06 AM
Im actually shocked that the flight movements of troop charters is publicly available. I would have thought this information should be classified. If these are actual troop flights, then they are very lax publishing this information. Just like when services personnel appear in uniform on TV with their name badge on display. I would have thought we would be more careful with such information now.
RAAF aircraft dont appear on those flight tracker sites/apps. You cant even see POLAIR on there.
Those listed above are commercial aircraft, so the "tracking" sites/apps can see them. But even so its not like RAAF advertise that X commerical plane has been chartered and its whereabouts. That one in the facebook link only made the news because it was a 747 landing at a regional airport.
A few years ago when the Samson Flat Bushfire had two large firebombers from interstate refilling at RAAF Edinburgh, their transponders were turned off while they were in Defence restricted airspace. They didn't get turned on until east of Main North Road somewhere, and turned off before they returned to the RAAF base. The local aircraft refilling at Gawler had theirs on all the time.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2467 Post by AdelaideGold » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:12 pm

From their master plan. Interesting...
8.4.8. Space Tourism (pg 150)
There is an opportunity for spacecraft to operate
at Adelaide Airport for space tourism activity in the
future. Adelaide Airport will work with space tourism
operators to consider the terminal and airfeld
requirements for spacecraft operations.

Go to page 148 for 20 year vision image too.

Code: Select all

https://www.adelaideairport.com.au/corporate/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/NJ01131_MP_S2-Online-Version-LR-chapter-08.pdf

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2468 Post by SRW » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:50 pm

Had a quick perusal. Two things stood out for me: potential route for Richmond Road link and the anticipated long term duplication of the pick-up/drop-off zone. That ought to wet the lips of some around. Overall, AAL seems to have a handle on forward planning.
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2469 Post by rev » Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:40 pm

Here's a few images I grabbed from the PDF file.
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2470 Post by rev » Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:41 pm

20yearplan4.jpg
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2471 Post by ChillyPhilly » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:13 pm

They've got a tram corridor in mind - that pleases me.
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2472 Post by 1NEEDS2POST » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:31 pm

AdelaideGold wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:12 pm
From their master plan. Interesting...
8.4.8. Space Tourism (pg 150)
There is an opportunity for spacecraft to operate
at Adelaide Airport for space tourism activity in the
future. Adelaide Airport will work with space tourism
operators to consider the terminal and airfeld
requirements for spacecraft operations.

Go to page 148 for 20 year vision image too.

Code: Select all

https://www.adelaideairport.com.au/corporate/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/NJ01131_MP_S2-Online-Version-LR-chapter-08.pdf
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They've got a tram corridor in mind - that pleases me.
But will they chip in money or expect taxpayers to fund everything?

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2473 Post by SRW » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:48 pm

If you got something to say about it, consultation is open till end of the next month:
We invite you to participate in the consultation process by providing your written comment on any aspect of this document. Formal submissions regarding the content of the Adelaide Airport Preliminary Draft Master Plan 2019 should be made in writing, include your name and address, and mailed to:

Adelaide Airport Limited Master Plan Submission
1 James Schofield Drive, Adelaide Airport SA 5950

Or via email
Email: aamasterplan@aal.com.au

Submissions must be received in writing by 5.00pm (ACDT) on 28 October 2019.

In accordance with the Airports Act, AAL must consider submissions received during the public comment period. Where possible, the concerns and issues raised will be incorporated into the Draft Master Plan that will be presented to the Commonwealth Minister for consideration.
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2474 Post by Listy » Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:06 pm

ChillyPhilly wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:13 pm
They've got a tram corridor in mind - that pleases me.
In the 2014 report they actually called it a tram corridor. "High capacity public transport" sounds like something the PR team came up with so they could avoid all mention of the dreaded "T" word in the current report.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#2475 Post by ChillyPhilly » Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:19 am

Listy wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:06 pm
ChillyPhilly wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:13 pm
They've got a tram corridor in mind - that pleases me.
In the 2014 report they actually called it a tram corridor. "High capacity public transport" sounds like something the PR team came up with so they could avoid all mention of the dreaded "T" word in the current report.
To the airport team, it can only mean tram. The bus already goes that way, and it won't be a train, so that leaves one option: tram. There's more forward planning in this than the State Government could possibly be capable of, so to bypass Knoll's tram-hating radar, they've indeed done as you said.
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