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[COM] Re: Oaklands Crossing | $174m
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:55 am
by Norman
I've made a video touring the station. Any feedback is appreciated
https://youtu.be/bgk0o4kJRgE
[COM] Re: Oaklands Crossing | $174m
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 2:04 pm
by AndyWelsh
Great video - thanks for taking the time to film that!
My friend was saying there some confusion this morning from passengers knowing which of the 2 roof sections to stand under, due to the platform being long enough to accommodate 2 trains coupled together. Did you see that at all?
I also got the impression from the video that you liked the materials used at the station, but my first impression from the train window was that it was a bit of a mashup of styles. The 2 angled roof sections, black roof and steel columns, skylights, light wood panelling, concrete, perhaps some kind of reflective mural (?) with big OAKLANDS lettering, red paint and panels, plus the standard orange Seaford line signage. I'll try and take a closer look next week to see if it's better in person!
[COM] Re: Oaklands Crossing | $174m
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 3:49 pm
by how good is he
Did they ever reveal why they didn't change the name of the stop to Marion? Was it the outcome of community consultation?
[COM] Re: Oaklands Crossing | $174m
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 4:24 pm
by Norman
AndyWelsh wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 2:04 pm
Great video - thanks for taking the time to film that!
My friend was saying there some confusion this morning from passengers knowing which of the 2 roof sections to stand under, due to the platform being long enough to accommodate 2 trains coupled together. Did you see that at all?
I also got the impression from the video that you liked the materials used at the station, but my first impression from the train window was that it was a bit of a mashup of styles. The 2 angled roof sections, black roof and steel columns, skylights, light wood panelling, concrete, perhaps some kind of reflective mural (?) with big OAKLANDS lettering, red paint and panels, plus the standard orange Seaford line signage. I'll try and take a closer look next week to see if it's better in person!
In terms of where to stand at the station, I think with anything that is new it will work out in time where people need to stand. Even in cities like Perth where some trains run in 3 and 6 car formations, people will always work that sort of stuff out in time, and new users and visitors will stand where the rest of the people stand.
When I was there, most people were standing in the front section where the train pulled in, but that was due to the fact the current access points are all on that side of the station.
Regarding the design, I thought the wood looks better in person, but each to their own I guess. To me it represents the trees and woodlands that used to cover the area.
I might take a few photos later this week to see how it looks at night.
[COM] Re: Oaklands Crossing | $174m
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 4:46 pm
by AndyWelsh
Yeah I’m travelling back through there this evening so looking forward to seeing what it looks like under lights!
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[COM] Re: Oaklands Crossing | $174m
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 4:48 pm
by OlympusAnt
its good to finally see one of the worst crossings in the city finally gone
[COM] Re: Oaklands Crossing | $174m
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 9:18 pm
by Norman
[COM] Re: Oaklands Crossing | $174m
Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:08 pm
by Joelmark
Thanks Norman for all these pics. I think to give DPTI credit these new "super stations" (Bowden, Adelaide Showgrounds, and the earlier completed Gawler line ones like Elizabeth and Munno Para) look great and give a feel to how all of Adelaide's rail system could look if other key stations were given the same treatment. They even show how the idea of transferring passengers from buses to interchanges with decent infrastructure could work in theory, if actually planned and funded properly with bus arrivals linking up with rail departures and vice versa. The government really needs to commit to get on with planning for the electrification of the Outer Harbor line too and updrade key stations on that line to the standard of the new Oaklands which will attract more passenger custom.
[COM] Re: Oaklands Crossing | $174m
Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:34 pm
by OlympusAnt
It cost $140mil, you'd expect it to be good.
Cost aside, yes we need upgrades of many stations.
[COM] Re: Oaklands Crossing | $174m
Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 8:31 pm
by TorrensSA
We need level crossing removals, station upgrades, increased frequency, electrification, more trains and a city loop. Am I missing anything?
[COM] Re: Oaklands Crossing | $174m
Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 9:59 pm
by Patrick_27
TorrensSA wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:31 pm
We need level crossing removals, station upgrades, increased frequency, electrification, more trains and a city loop. Am I missing anything?
Money...
[COM] Re: Oaklands Crossing | $174m
Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 11:00 pm
by ml69
Joelmark wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:08 pm
Thanks Norman for all these pics. I think to give DPTI credit these new "super stations" (Bowden, Adelaide Showgrounds, and the earlier completed Gawler line ones like Elizabeth and Munno Para) look great and give a feel to how all of Adelaide's rail system could look if other key stations were given the same treatment. They even show how the idea of transferring passengers from buses to interchanges with decent infrastructure could work in theory, if actually planned and funded properly with bus arrivals linking up with rail departures and vice versa. The government really needs to commit to get on with planning for the electrification of the Outer Harbor line too and updrade key stations on that line to the standard of the new Oaklands which will attract more passenger custom.
Yeah Oaklands looks really good. I still would have preferred for it to be renamed “Marion”, and have Marion renamed to “Westminster” ... but anyway.
Over the next decade or so, I’d like to see a similar “super station” modernisation and rail underpass created for Woodville and Salisbury stations, which are two major hubs on the network. The rail underpasses are critical if we want to increase frequency on newly electrified lines, without imposing a burden on vehicular traffic (particularly when the stations are immediately adjacent to main roads).
Also, Edwardstown and Woodlands Park stations should be closed down and replaced with a new grade-separated “super station” at Castle Plaza, which would connect with the existing bus service on Raglan Ave. Increased park and ride car parks could be provided on the former industrial land facing Raglan Ave.
[COM] Re: Oaklands Crossing | $174m
Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:03 am
by kymbosa
ml69 wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:00 pm
Also, Edwardstown and Woodlands Park stations should be closed down and replaced with a new grade-separated “super station” at Castle Plaza, which would connect with the existing bus service on Raglan Ave. Increased park and ride car parks could be provided on the former industrial land facing Raglan Ave.
Yes, yes, yes. Let’s start linking shops, and transport together. Use the space, those two stations are two close anyway.
[COM] Re: Oaklands Crossing | $174m
Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 10:54 am
by claybro
ml69 wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:00 pm
Joelmark wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:08 pm
Thanks Norman for all these pics. I think to give DPTI credit these new "super stations" (Bowden, Adelaide Showgrounds, and the earlier completed Gawler line ones like Elizabeth and Munno Para) look great and give a feel to how all of Adelaide's rail system could look if other key stations were given the same treatment. They even show how the idea of transferring passengers from buses to interchanges with decent infrastructure could work in theory, if actually planned and funded properly with bus arrivals linking up with rail departures and vice versa. The government really needs to commit to get on with planning for the electrification of the Outer Harbor line too and updrade key stations on that line to the standard of the new Oaklands which will attract more passenger custom.
Yeah Oaklands looks really good. I still would have preferred for it to be renamed “Marion”, and have Marion renamed to “Westminster” ... but anyway.
Over the next decade or so, I’d like to see a similar “super station” modernisation and rail underpass created for Woodville and Salisbury stations, which are two major hubs on the network. The rail underpasses are critical if we want to increase frequency on newly electrified lines, without imposing a burden on vehicular traffic (particularly when the stations are immediately adjacent to main roads).
Also, Edwardstown and Woodlands Park stations should be closed down and replaced with a new grade-separated “super station” at Castle Plaza, which would connect with the existing bus service on Raglan Ave. Increased park and ride car parks could be provided on the former industrial land facing Raglan Ave.
Could not agree more. Radical consolidation of stations, in better locations would enable many more of these modern stations and actually attract many new riders, instead of pandering to a handful of people at each little suburban stop now.
[COM] Re: Oaklands Crossing | $174m
Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 10:27 pm
by ml69
claybro wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 10:54 am
Could not agree more. Radical consolidation of stations, in better locations would enable many more of these modern stations and actually attract many new riders, instead of pandering to a handful of people at each little suburban stop now.
Islington also has huge potential as a park and ride station, and interchanging with buses along Regency Rd. Get rid of Dudley Park station as part of the Islington “super station” rebuild. Lots of new houses being built around the Islington area now as well.
I’d also relocate Kilburn station to a location adjacent to the Churchill Centre. Provide a clear, accessible pedestrian path to the shopping centre and provide park and ride car parking. Rename it “Churchill”. I know it’s quite close to Islington, but I think it is worthwhile to redevelop both stations as I think Churchill Centre is a growing hub of the inner North.