[PRO] Aldinga Rail Extension | $800m

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[PRO] Re: [PRO] Re: Aldinga Rail Extension | $800m

#91 Post by Waewick » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:15 pm


claybro wrote:
Waewick wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:06 pm
Unless we get China money there will never be a decent train system in Adelaide.

Its too easy to kill on economics.

Like the tram system, the train system doesn't service the densely populated parts of Adelaide so it'll never get the patronage.
That's a relatively easy fix. If it's too expensive to move the existing rail infrastructure, then move the poeple to the rail precincts. There is so much under developed land around our existing stations, even while we carve up land and propose townhouses in semi rural locations. They have spent a lazy couple of hundred million remodelling Oaklands station (twice) and a few more hundreds of millions redeveloping the shopping centre, and yet both are still half a km apart. I would say it's not really about money, moreso poor planning.
Poor planning agreed.

I've lived in Adelaide for a long time, that whole time people talked about getting people to move near the public transport

All that is happened is the area between Goodwood Rd through to North East Road has got more densely populated.

We are missing 100s of thousands of people because our train and tram lines don't go where people are.

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[PRO] Re: [PRO] Re: Aldinga Rail Extension | $800m

#92 Post by Waewick » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:19 pm

TorrensSA wrote:Adelaides most densely populated council, Holdfast Bay is served by train and tram lines. A lot more can be done to increase density a long the Seaford line, Oaklands has so much potential, so much low density housing that could be turned into 4 to 6 story apartment blocks, Brighton you can do the same. Adelaide has so much potential for infill, near the beach and a train or tram line, the infrastructure is there (Outer Harbor, Grange, Glenelg and Seaford lines).
Where do you get those stats from?

Norwood and Unley are the most densely populated areas.

The North East has the most people in a council area.

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[PRO] Re: [PRO] Re: Aldinga Rail Extension | $800m

#93 Post by Spotto » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:39 pm

Waewick wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:19 pm
TorrensSA wrote:Adelaides most densely populated council, Holdfast Bay is served by train and tram lines. A lot more can be done to increase density a long the Seaford line, Oaklands has so much potential, so much low density housing that could be turned into 4 to 6 story apartment blocks, Brighton you can do the same. Adelaide has so much potential for infill, near the beach and a train or tram line, the infrastructure is there (Outer Harbor, Grange, Glenelg and Seaford lines).
Where do you get those stats from?

Norwood and Unley are the most densely populated areas.

The North East has the most people in a council area.
We could take advantage of that with a Norwood Parade tram to George Street and an Unley Road tram to Mitcham Square S/C. Oh wait, we have Libs and NIMBYs to not thank for that...

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[PRO] Re: Aldinga Rail Extension | $800m

#94 Post by TorrensSA » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:31 pm

From here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_gov ... _Australia Norwood, Payneham and St Peters has less people than Holdfast Bay and is larger in size (15km2 v 13km2) also the 2016 Census data shows Holdfast Bay has 38,653 people and NPSP is 35,362. So Holdfast Bay is smaller than NPSP and has 3000 more people. The populations on wiki are wrong, click on the councils to find the actual population from the 2016 census. Unley and Holdfast have pretty similar density - Holdfast is higher though.

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