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How steep is Frome Road compared to the gradient of the tram overpass over the railway line at Goodwood (and the former one at Bowden). I guess it's steeper than King William Road?Listy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:34 amAfter biking up that hill for years I could have done with one of those after a long day at work!
I suspect that the issue is the combination of a twist and a bend where the Frome and Nth Tce tracks would join. It could only work for trams with short turning radii. They exist, but I suggest nobody here knows about them.SBD wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:42 pmHow steep is Frome Road compared to the gradient of the tram overpass over the railway line at Goodwood (and the former one at Bowden). I guess it's steeper than King William Road?
Did anyone else read the part where it talked about "The ultimate tram network"rubberman wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:52 pmRight turn Report - Damnation of Citadis
https://www.infrastructure.sa.gov.au/__ ... o_DPTI.pdf
:So that would make it a 3-4 minute frequency service to Glenelg!?? - and that assumes their loop only operates one way. Otherwise it then becomes a 2.5 minute frequency to serve lines from Glenelg to EC, NA and the loop both clockwise and anti-clockwise. Seriously. Why are DPTI listening to these fools!?• 10-minute frequency service from/to Glenelg - Entertainment Centre
• 10-minute frequency service from/to Glenelg - North Adelaide (not constructed)
• 10-minute frequency service Glenelg - East End looping back to Glenelg via a proposed East Terrace and Gouger Street link
• 10-minute frequency shuttle from South Terrace to RAH
Interesting tracks in that concept image...ml69 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:26 pmNot directly linked to Adelaide trams but interesting FYI anyway ... the contract price for the 12km Parramatta light rail is an eye-watering $2.4bn (including all associated works)!!
http://www.parramattalightrail.nsw.gov. ... cts-signed
Ask Sydney. It's only about three times as expensive as overhead wires. Oh, and Citadis trams.
Not only is it more expensive, it is also proprietary technology....you can only run one brand of trams across the wireless technology.
"Heritage" is different in different places. In Adelaide, the "areas of high heritage" are likely to require overhead tram power lines, as they did between 1914 and 1954. "No overheads" would be required for the "modern" places.EBG wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:53 pmSome details about the French APS system to supply trams with power without wire can be found on the link:
https://www.alstom.com/aps-service-prov ... operations.
This is the proprietary of Alstom.
This system was initially very expensive and only used in areas of very high heritage buildings. APS was translated into English as "The Astronomically Priced System"
Adelaide doesn’t have heritage. Adelaide doesn’t have anything. I hate trams. They’re a waste of time. This whole topic is a waste of time. Crawf delete it please.SBD wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:38 pm"Heritage" is different in different places. In Adelaide, the "areas of high heritage" are likely to require overhead tram power lines, as they did between 1914 and 1954. "No overheads" would be required for the "modern" places.EBG wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:53 pmSome details about the French APS system to supply trams with power without wire can be found on the link:
https://www.alstom.com/aps-service-prov ... operations.
This is the proprietary of Alstom.
This system was initially very expensive and only used in areas of very high heritage buildings. APS was translated into English as "The Astronomically Priced System"
Nice troll!ghs (but alot worse) wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:01 pmAdelaide doesn’t have heritage. Adelaide doesn’t have anything. I hate trams. They’re a waste of time. This whole topic is a waste of time. Crawf delete it please.SBD wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:38 pm"Heritage" is different in different places. In Adelaide, the "areas of high heritage" are likely to require overhead tram power lines, as they did between 1914 and 1954. "No overheads" would be required for the "modern" places.EBG wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:53 pmSome details about the French APS system to supply trams with power without wire can be found on the link:
https://www.alstom.com/aps-service-prov ... operations.
This is the proprietary of Alstom.
This system was initially very expensive and only used in areas of very high heritage buildings. APS was translated into English as "The Astronomically Priced System"