News & Discussion: Trams

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#4021 Post by [Shuz] » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:29 pm

This 'loop' is in addition to the regular service, right?
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#4022 Post by claybro » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:41 pm

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Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:11 pm
The timeble for this service is useless. Trams get a 10 to 18 minute layover at the Federal Centre tram stop and another long stopover at Botanic Garden.
This is not conducive to encouraging people to use thisservice.
Is there a technical reason why the layovers are so long? Is it just that the tram drivers pfaff around closing down one cab, having a smoke and dawdle down to the other cab? 18 minutes seems extreme.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#4023 Post by TorrensSA » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:27 pm

If the Government were to extend the tram line north to North Adelaide and beyond, and it was done in two sections it would be better to do two similar length extensions of 4km. This would mean the first extension would include Prospect Road shops in Prospect and would finish around Barker Gardens / Coles the second extension could include a depot for the extra trams in Kilburn.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#4024 Post by Eurostar » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:29 pm

The current Government should so build this , North Terrace, West Terrace, South Terrace, Hutt Street
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#4025 Post by claybro » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:43 pm

Eurostar wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:29 pm
The current Government should so build this , North Terrace, West Terrace, South Terrace, Hutt Street
Would certainly look better than the collection of low maintenance weeds in the middle of West Terrace now.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#4026 Post by Ho Really » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:19 am

Eurostar wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:29 pm
The current Government should so build this , North Terrace, West Terrace, South Terrace, Hutt Street
Not Hutt Street and South Terrace. The loop should go down Pulteney Street or Frome Street then Angas, Gouger, Morphett Streets, then Currie Street, West and North Terrace.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#4027 Post by arki » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:12 am

I agree that it should not run through the terraces. Our CBD is spread and catchment would be far better using 'inner roads' which cross the squares.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#4028 Post by rubberman » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:26 am

arki wrote:
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I agree that it should not run through the terraces. Our CBD is spread and catchment would be far better using 'inner roads' which cross the squares.
The alternative routes for CityLink were studied in great detail by the previous government. Pulteney Street was one option, but it did not stack up. IIRC, Gouger Street had real congestion problems, especially the car parks, and on market days.

The various route options considered catchment and development issues down to the micro level.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#4029 Post by rubberman » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:46 pm

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#4030 Post by Nathan » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:53 pm

Why make use of your updatable destination screen when you can stick a bit of corflute in the window...

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#4031 Post by A-Town » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:39 pm

Nathan wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:53 pm
Why make use of your updatable destination screen when you can stick a bit of corflute in the window...
Odd. While we're at it, anyone know what's up with calling services to the RAH, 'Royal Hospital Adelaide' and not Royal Adelaide Hospital?

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#4032 Post by Waewick » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:45 pm

Well unimpressed tonight. Waiting forever for a tram at the art gallery stop. The stop It filled up and emptied twice between trams it took that long.

Needs far more frequency.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#4033 Post by SBD » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:17 pm

Waewick wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:45 pm
Well unimpressed tonight. Waiting forever for a tram at the art gallery stop. The stop It filled up and emptied twice between trams it took that long.

Needs far more frequency.
An "unusual" special event loop should run as fast as possible, not wait for a timetable. I think traffic theory shows that eventually an empty tram catches up to a full one if they are all allowed to operate that way, and ultimately they all end up together. This is because the first one has to stop for longer as all the people waiting get on it, then there are not many waiting for the next one, so its stop is quicker. I expect there are better ways to address that than putting ten-minute waits in the timetables.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#4034 Post by Ser Noit of Loit » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:15 pm

A-Town wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:39 pm
Nathan wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:53 pm
Why make use of your updatable destination screen when you can stick a bit of corflute in the window...
Odd. While we're at it, anyone know what's up with calling services to the RAH, 'Royal Hospital Adelaide' and not Royal Adelaide Hospital?
Probably putting the more specific and important information first. Assuming everyone knows they're in Adelaide it's more relevant to know the tram is going to "Royal Hospital..." than "Royal Adelaide..." Another one would be if the tram stopped at the convention centre. The boards would likely say "Convention Centre Adelaide" instead of "Adelaide Convention Centre."

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#4035 Post by Waewick » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:26 pm

SBD wrote:
Waewick wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:45 pm
Well unimpressed tonight. Waiting forever for a tram at the art gallery stop. The stop It filled up and emptied twice between trams it took that long.

Needs far more frequency.
An "unusual" special event loop should run as fast as possible, not wait for a timetable. I think traffic theory shows that eventually an empty tram catches up to a full one if they are all allowed to operate that way, and ultimately they all end up together. This is because the first one has to stop for longer as all the people waiting get on it, then there are not many waiting for the next one, so its stop is quicker. I expect there are better ways to address that than putting ten-minute waits in the timetables.
I don't know how it works exactly, but surely it could have been better that a 20 odd minute wait.

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