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#16 Post by Llessur2002 » Thu May 19, 2016 9:44 am

Apparently it's string rail. Had never heard of that until now...

http://www.gizmag.com/unitsky-string-tr ... ded/15300/

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#17 Post by thecityguy » Thu May 19, 2016 9:58 am

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/3 ... t-funding/

Channel 7 talking like flinders is a trial for the entire city


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#18 Post by Llessur2002 » Thu May 19, 2016 10:42 am

Whilst I find the technology exciting, my other worry about this type of transport is that it harks slightly back to the MATS-era days where the car was essentially king of everything at ground level and everyone else should be shifted above or below ground. I like trams because they do have an inherent traffic-calming effect when run on city streets and help to redress the imbalance between single-occupant cars and more efficient mass-movement of people.

Bring on the slow and rumbly trams - every time their doors open a mass of people spills out onto the streets. I kinda like that...

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#19 Post by Waewick » Thu May 19, 2016 11:16 am

I look at it a bit differently. Imagine if this kind of transport gets so popular the roads can be narrowed and the street becomes more about people.

Happily see no cars in the CBD...or trams.

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#20 Post by thecityguy » Thu May 19, 2016 11:21 am

I agree, however I don't think this has a much of a disconnect to the streets as your suggesting, you would still get streams of people, only in this situation they would be steaming down stairs from the elevated stations onto the street. I also think it would be quite cool seeing the elevated carriages zipping around. I suppose if it is a cheaper solution, is faster than normal trams and does help traffic flow, then it's definitely worth a look into.

I think one of the most appealing parts of this is that it would be so unlike Adelaide to do something so unorthodox and daring and be the first ones to implement a new technology like this

But saying that I get where your coming from and agree I'm a sucker for a tram myself


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#21 Post by Brucetiki » Thu May 19, 2016 12:02 pm

[Shuz] wrote:Its a bonafide, electrified, six car monorail!

We all know what happens next...
Is there a chance the track could bend? :lol:

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#22 Post by floplo » Thu May 19, 2016 12:09 pm

Brucetiki wrote:
[Shuz] wrote:Its a bonafide, electrified, six car monorail!

We all know what happens next...
Is there a chance the track could bend? :lol:
Actually, yes.... it even is supposed to 8)

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#23 Post by ralmin » Thu May 19, 2016 7:35 pm

Brucetiki wrote:Is there a chance the track could bend? :lol:
This system has great difficulty going around bends, because the thin rails need extremely high tension steel wires inside. You have to essentially divide the run into a few long straight segments, with tensioning equipment at the ends of each segment. You then build much thicker and more expensive rigid rails for the corner, which aren't tensioned.

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#24 Post by Mountaineer » Thu May 19, 2016 10:15 pm

But Main Street is still all cracked and broken..

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#25 Post by monotonehell » Fri May 20, 2016 12:02 pm

Brucetiki wrote:Is there a chance the track could bend?
Mountaineer wrote:But Main Street is still all cracked and broken..
Now now... Nathan has already told you guys...

:banana:

This seems like a serious proposal. Although my cynicism is at 3000, I'm willing to hear it out.

I tend to agree with Nathan, the Simpsons episode has poured scorn and ridicule on monorails in general which are actually a very efficient and effective transport solution -- in their usage mode. It's a pity that they are always seen as a novelty or a toy. When you want to shift a lot of people between a few points, visibly but off grade and quickly they are magic. If you want to integrate at street level - not so much. They are the inverse of a subway. They provide a bit of movement just above street level. Very Jetsons / past's future.
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#26 Post by Nathan » Fri May 20, 2016 12:15 pm

Exactly. All transport methods have various pros and cons, and it's worth considering which fits best for the required usage (although I'm not saying have 17 different things scattered around the city - obviously one of the consideration is a city's big picture transportation network).

In this case, it seems like a middle ground between a monorail and an aerial tram. I don't see it as something that could really roll out around the CBD or the metro area in general, but for the specific location proposed, it makes some sense.

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#27 Post by fishinajar » Sun May 22, 2016 8:50 am

Llessur2002 wrote:Whilst I find the technology exciting, my other worry about this type of transport is that it harks slightly back to the MATS-era days where the car was essentially king of everything at ground level and everyone else should be shifted above or below ground. I like trams because they do have an inherent traffic-calming effect when run on city streets and help to redress the imbalance between single-occupant cars and more efficient mass-movement of people.

Bring on the slow and rumbly trams - every time their doors open a mass of people spills out onto the streets. I kinda like that...
Waewick wrote:I look at it a bit differently. Imagine if this kind of transport gets so popular the roads can be narrowed and the street becomes more about people.

Happily see no cars in the CBD...or trams.
I think people do prefer the street. See http://www.failedarchitecture.com/the-d ... n-the-sky/. Would Adelaides' city streets ever be so thronged with people that there would be no room for trams/buses?

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#28 Post by thecityguy » Wed May 25, 2016 5:36 pm

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=echVc7qpTYE

How about this going down King will aha


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#29 Post by Waewick » Wed May 25, 2016 5:47 pm

fishinajar wrote:
Llessur2002 wrote:Whilst I find the technology exciting, my other worry about this type of transport is that it harks slightly back to the MATS-era days where the car was essentially king of everything at ground level and everyone else should be shifted above or below ground. I like trams because they do have an inherent traffic-calming effect when run on city streets and help to redress the imbalance between single-occupant cars and more efficient mass-movement of people.

Bring on the slow and rumbly trams - every time their doors open a mass of people spills out onto the streets. I kinda like that...
Waewick wrote:I look at it a bit differently. Imagine if this kind of transport gets so popular the roads can be narrowed and the street becomes more about people.

Happily see no cars in the CBD...or trams.
I think people do prefer the street. See http://www.failedarchitecture.com/the-d ... n-the-sky/. Would Adelaides' city streets ever be so thronged with people that there would be no room for trams/buses?
Not really what I am thinking. That was for people.

But who knows

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#30 Post by Brucetiki » Thu May 26, 2016 9:30 am

Mountaineer wrote:But Main Street is still all cracked and broken..
Sorry Mount the mob has spoken :lol:

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