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[PRO] Re: [PRO] Re: [PRO] Re: [PRO] Re: Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road Intersection

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:15 pm
by Waewick
SRW wrote:
Waewick wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:40 pm
I'm another note, shouldn't this be done before major works on the rest of South Rd?

Goodwood is going to pick up the slack from South Rd. So having this done in preparation seems like a no brainer.
I also feel there'll need to be a tram overpass on Marion Road for this reason.
Yes x 100.

[PRO] Re: Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road Intersection

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:17 pm
by Waewick
Is anyone able to post the Libs version of the fix?

Its just more lanes and we retain the dog leg.

I would have thought aligning the roads would make more sense long term.

[PRO] Re: Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road Intersection

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:18 pm
by ralmin
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[PRO] Re: Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road Intersection

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:42 pm
by Eurostar
ralmin wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:18 pm
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Typical Liberals. When SA Labor has to fix it properly the SA Liberals will whinge about SA Labor waisting money

[PRO] Re: Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road Intersection

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:55 pm
by Raider
Has anyone else noticed the really long city bound bike lane. It starts in the middle of the Daws Road intersection and ends at the Springbank Road one. There wont be room for it to extend beyond Daws Road since they wont be moving the kerb. The only cycle lane will be southbound which is why I assume there is the careful wording of 'continuous cycle lane through intersection'.

[PRO] Re: [PRO] Re: Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road Intersection

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:41 pm
by Norman
Raider wrote:Has anyone else noticed the really long city bound bike lane. It starts in the middle of the Daws Road intersection and ends at the Springbank Road one. There wont be room for it to extend beyond Daws Road since they wont be moving the kerb. The only cycle lane will be southbound which is why I assume there is the careful wording of 'continuous cycle lane through intersection'.
I believe some work has already been done further up Goodwood Road between Daws Road and Pasadena Green. The median strip has been narrowed to accommodate a bike lane as far as I could see.

[PRO] Re: Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road Intersection

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:48 pm
by NTRabbit
I drove up and down Goodwood Rd on Sunday, they've definitely done something to the islands all the way along the centennial park cemetary frontage, I just couldn't quite put my finger on what it was as I was driving past

[PRO] Re: Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road Intersection

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:15 am
by GrowAdelaide
Looks to be adjusting the lanes so as to create a designated bike lane - very popular cycling route.

[PRO] Re: Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road Intersection

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:46 pm
by Raider
Driving past this morning I saw a 7-9AM bus lane sign near the Grandview Drive junction (citybound). I don't think the lanes are going to be wide enough to accommodate a bike lane as well on the citybound side. Should be plenty of room on the southbound side though unless they're going to try to squeeze 3 traffic lanes on that side as well.

[PRO] Re: Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road Intersection

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:51 pm
by SRW
DPTI has posted vision of the Liberal's version, which will hopefully be dutifully euthanised in favour of eliminating the dogleg if federal Labor is elected and follows through on its committed funding:


Side by side:
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[PRO] Re: Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road Intersection

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:24 pm
by SBD
SRW wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:51 pm
DPTI has posted vision of the Liberal's version, which will hopefully be dutifully euthanised in favour of eliminating the dogleg if federal Labor is elected and follows through on its committed funding:


Side by side:
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The last slide of the video shows that traffic modelling is still in progress. The questions then to me are:
1) Can the plan change if the traffic model shows there is not sufficient improvement?
2) Can the public accept this solution if the modelling (which might include traffic light settings and pedestrian flows) shows it works? There seem to be a number of loud voices who "know this is suboptimal". Is it possible to convince them that their solution is no better?

[PRO] Re: Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road Intersection

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:45 pm
by Norman
I do wonder where they will they will get the extra land for the extra lanes from, will it be from Bedford or the Repat/Caltex?

[PRO] Re: Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road Intersection

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:15 pm
by ChillyPhilly
SRW wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:51 pm
DPTI has posted vision of the Liberal's version, which will hopefully be dutifully euthanised in favour of eliminating the dogleg if federal Labor is elected and follows through on its committed funding:


Side by side:
53204901_2091228837630087_5242497769385492480_n.jpg
Typical Liberals, not doing transport right. Disappointing.

[PRO] Re: Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road Intersection

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:08 pm
by SBD
Do any of the people who "know" that the current proposal is wrong, inadequate or not as good as the previous version actually have any qualifications in traffic engineering, or are you all as ignorant as I am?

[PRO] Re: Goodwood/Springbank/Daws Road Intersection

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:57 am
by Waewick
SBD wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:08 pm
Do any of the people who "know" that the current proposal is wrong, inadequate or not as good as the previous version actually have any qualifications in traffic engineering, or are you all as ignorant as I am?
i think the general issues comes down to why leave the dog leg there at all. If you are going to do it, eliminate it rather than just making it better.

but you are right, perhaps this is the better option that Labors, but maybe both options aren't the best outcome? (not sure what is at that stage, but I am in favour of getting rid of the dog leg in some way, shape or form)